If I may, I think the difference is subtle but critical.

The implication of the statement "...we fear it will be [needed]" is that we 
may be forced into a situation where we use geoengineering, but it's the 
correct remaining response.

What Alan's arguing might be summed up as a fear that we will use 
geoengineering before really understanding the consequences, a fear that we 
will come to believe geoengineering to be "needed" without being able to 
consider the full range of negative repercussions -- which could, in some 
scenarios, be worse than the warming.

-Jamais Cascio




On Mar 23, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Stephen Salter wrote:

> Dear Alan
> 
> The difference between my Commons statement and your position is too subtle 
> for me.   Do you mean that you are not alarmed about the possibility of the 
> need for geoengineering becoming apparent?
> 
> I could not possibly ask everybody because I do not have a complete list.  
> However in future I could if you wish say ' nearly everybody except people 
> like Alan Robock . . .'  Perhaps in return you could in future distinguish 
> the tropospheric salt and stratospheric sulphur SRM techniques from one 
> another.
> 
> By the way I do value your opposition.  If we ever have to do geoengineering 
> the process will be safer because of you.  All I want is to have reliable 
> equipment ready if it is needed in a hurry and all its effects well 
> understood.  I am a bit surprised that you are not making more of a fuss 
> about figure 2b of your own paper in Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics and 
> its effect on methane release.  Where do your stand on PIOMAS Arctic volume 
> predictions?
> 
> Stephen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 22/03/2012 21:14, Alan Robock wrote:
>> Dear Steve,
>> 
>> In the article about your parliamentary hearing, it says:
>> 
>> "Everybody working in geo-engineering hopes it won't be needed - but we fear 
>> it will be," said Prof Salter.
>> 
>> This is incorrect, and I would like to request that you issue a statement to 
>> that effect.  You are not speaking for me.  And you need to ask everyone 
>> else working in this field, before you claim to speak for them.  I 
>> personally fear that geoengineering will be used before all the potential 
>> effects are studied.  This is quite different from fearing that it will be 
>> needed, because that implies that we know that it will be the only response 
>> society can take.  Thanks.
>> 
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