Hi All
Andrew's question reminds me that there was once a debate on our Hose of
Commons when one member said of another.
'The Right Honourable gentleman has the manners of a pig.'
The was a general outcry of 'Withdraw, withdraw'.
The member said
'Very well I withdraw my statement. The Right Honourable gentleman
does not have the manners of a pig.'
Stephen
On 24/03/2012 15:10, Andrew Lockley wrote:
Just to provoke a little debate...
Are there ANY scientists out there who think we should use
geoengineering INSTEAD of emissions reduction? IE advocating BAU+GE ?
I suggest there are not, but I'd be interested to see if I'd get
pilloried for speaking for the community.
A
On 24 March 2012 14:05, Ken Caldeira <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
That's right, Stephen, you should learn from Jim's example:
“Quite a few people fall into the category that I call ‘sincere
but deluded scientists’ — that is, they are pathologically
enthusiastic about their research, but not able to really rein in
their enthusiasm,” Fleming said.
http://thetartan.org/2011/10/17/scitech/fts
See, when you call people 'sincere but deluded", you have to
preface it with "quite a few" and then don't name names.
Perhaps you should amend your statement to read " "/Quite a few
people/ working in geo-engineering hope it won't be needed - but
we fear it will be," said Prof Salter. " and then everyone will be
happy.
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 2:55 PM, James Fleming <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Stephen,
Since you persist, I have to request that in the future you
please speak for yourself, not as a spokesman for any ersatz
geoengineering community. Please note that I am not asking to
be added to your list of exceptions, but *I am asking you
refrain from such generalizations.*
Jim Fleming
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Stephen Salter
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The difference between my Commons statement and your
position is too subtle for me. Do you mean that you are
not alarmed about the possibility of the need for
geoengineering becoming apparent?
I could not possibly ask everybody because I do not have a
complete list. However in future I could if you wish say
*' nearly everybody except people like Alan Robock . . .'
*Perhaps in return you could in future distinguish the
tropospheric salt and stratospheric sulphur SRM techniques
from one another.
On 22/03/2012 21:14, Alan Robock wrote:
Dear Steve,
In the article about your parliamentary hearing, it says:
*"Everybody working in geo-engineering hopes it won't be
needed - but we fear it will be," said Prof Salter.*
This is incorrect, and I would like to request that you issue
a statement to that effect. You are not speaking for me. And
you need to ask everyone else working in this field, before
you claim to speak for them. I personally fear that
geoengineering will be used before all the potential effects
are studied. This is quite different from fearing that it
will be needed, because that implies that we know that it will
be the only response society can take. Thanks.
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