Alan's powers of revision continue to astonish. He writes :  "It is amazing 
how these results have held up in the intervening 27 years."

Really ? Has he forgotten the five order of magnitude difference in 
darkness between the "Apocalyptic predictions" Sagan adduced in 1984 , and 
the recent modeling of Robock et al ?   It projects  project optical 
 depths  one or less-  that's a million times  brighter than the  optical 
depth of 20  postulated  20 years ago. Alan predicts  surface coolings in 
the single digits where TTAPS projected a global deep freeze.  Run the 
 time -temperature integrals and Alan's  predictions add up to a most a few 
hundred degree -days. 

In contrast  to Alan's efforts , the widely advertised TTAPS worst-case 
model turned the sun off like a light bulb, reducing insolation by a factor 
of a million, for  a biblical 40 days and 40 nights. predictably producing 
subzero cooling that totaled 22,000 degree-days-  an effect a hundred times 
more severe than that Robock recently  published .

22,000 degree-days F is twice the chill of an honest to god winter in 
Alaska or Siberia'  Has alan forgotten thatthe worst- and most heavily 
publicized of  Sagan's 'Apocalyptic predictions ' featured pervasive frost 
on the equator, and tempertures that stayed subzero long enough for Sagan 
to opine " the extinction of Homo sapiens cannot be excluded.  

Merely running his models longer does nothing to justify Alan's* *claim 
that : " In fact our new climate model simulations show that nuclear winter 
was correct, and that it would last longer than we thought then."

For details, and links to a graphic comparison of Robock & Sagan's 2007 and 
1983 results see my correspondence in *Nature* , July 7 2011

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v475/n7354/full/475037b.html?WT.ec_id=NATURE-20110707


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