Control is too problematic. I like active climate management as an umbrella term that includes co2 withdrawal and human forcings of all kinds. On Feb 10, 2013 9:00 PM, "Gregory Benford" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ken's history is right: 2006. I still prefer another term we tossed around > there: solar climate control. > > Of course any short term can be misread. > > Gregory Benford > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Ken Caldeira < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Minor correction: meeting was in 2006 at NASA-Ames. >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Ken Caldeira < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> A nicely done article. >>> >>> I would like to expand on one of Ray Pierrehumbert's comments. >>> >>> He is quoted as saying: >>> >>> “The term ‘solar radiation management’ is positively Orwellian. It’s a >>> way to increase comfort levels with this crazy idea.” —Raymond Pierrehumbert >>> He is right that it was created to inrease comfort level, but it was >>> done so with ironic intent. >>> >>> In 2007, I was organizing a meeting that took place at NASA-Ames. >>> (Incidentally, that meeting is where this google group started. >>> http://hdl.handle.net/2060/20070031204) >>> >>> There was some nervousness on the part of local NASA officials that the >>> term "geoengineering" might raise red flags back in Washington. At the >>> time, DOE was talking about "carbon management" which was a bureaucratic >>> way to speak about the potential for CO2 emissions reduction. >>> >>> To avoid the use of the word "geoengineering" in the meeting name, I >>> suggested that we create the term "Solar Radiation Managment" to use for >>> the workshop. It was meant as parody of US-government-style bureaucratic >>> jargon. It was meant as a joke and was intentionally obscurantist. We were >>> laughing about it at the time and never dreamed that it would become >>> standard jargon. >>> >>> The term "Solar Radiation Management" was meant to lower the profile of >>> the meeting while parodying Washington jargon. It amuses me that it has >>> become standard jargon. >>> >>> What started out as parody has moved on from its comedic roots. Comedy >>> has become drama. >>> >>> Incidentally, lately I have been using the term "solar geoengineering" >>> as my term of choice to refer to what SRM has come to denote. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Ken >>> _______________ >>> Ken Caldeira >>> >>> Carnegie Institution for Science >>> Dept of Global Ecology >>> 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA >>> +1 650 704 7212 [email protected] >>> http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab @kencaldeira >>> >>> *Caldeira Lab is hiring postdoctoral researchers.* >>> *http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab/Caldeira_employment.html* >>> >>> Our YouTube videos<http://www.youtube.com/user/CarnegieGlobEcology/videos> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Simon Driscoll >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/511016/a-cheap-and-easy-plan-to-stop-global-warming/ >>>> >>>> Ray Pierrehumbert recently sent this to me, and I haven't seen this >>>> posted to the group (apologies if it has been and I missed it in a quick >>>> search), so I thought it may be of interest. >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> ________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Simon Driscoll >>>> Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics >>>> Department of Physics >>>> University of Oxford >>>> >>>> Office: 01865 272930 >>>> Mobile: 07935314940 >>>> >>>> http://www2.physics.ox.ac.uk/contacts/people/driscoll >>>> http://www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/people/who-are-we/simon-driscoll/ >>>> http://80000hours.org/members/simon-driscoll >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "geoengineering" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "geoengineering" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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