I want to distance myself a bit from Andrew's remarks. My point was about treating geoengineering research like any other research.
With rare exception, shouldn't all research, especially publicly funded research, be open and transparent, make underlying data available, be sensitive to social needs and concerns, seek to minimize risk, seek appropriate public input, etc? There is nothing exceptional about geoengineering research. I would expect research groups to accept liability for any damage they would cause in the course of conducting an experiment. On Thursday, August 21, 2014, Andrew Lockley <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with Ken's stance. There's a legal approach to this problem, which > has been widely applied in a range of scenarios and jurisdictions. This is > based variously on the "good Samaritan" or emergency responder legislation > or case law. > > The central issue is thus : if a good faith intervention is made to > address a problem or crisis, who is liable for damage thus caused? > > To express in a practical example : who should pay for cleaning the > carpets if the fireman's muddy boots cause stains? This is particularly > relevant when the mud is in a neighbour's house, not the householder's. > > I'm hoping to work this discussion up into a paper, and if anyone is > interested in collaboration, please let me know. > > A > On 21 Aug 2014 11:00, "Ken Caldeira" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> I heard much more talk at CEC14 about reducing risk posed by attempts to >> reduce risk from climate change than I heard about attempts to reduce risk >> from climate change. >> >> There was what seemed to me to be a dangerous meme of geoengineering >> exceptionalism, that for some reason geoengineering research should be >> treated differently than other forms of research. >> >> With rare exception, shouldn't all research, especially publicly funded >> research, be open and transparent, make underlying data available, be >> sensitive to social needs and concerns, seek to minimize risk, seek >> appropriate public input, etc? There is nothing exceptional >> about geoengineering research. >> >> I started out the meeting asking two questions: >> >> 1. What is the problem? >> 2. What is so special? >> >> My answer to the first question is that the problem is how to reduce risk >> from climate change. >> >> My answer to the second question is that there is nothing special about >> geoengineering research -- let's see an end to 'geoengineering >> exceptionalism'. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> _______________ >> Ken Caldeira >> >> Carnegie Institution for Science >> Dept of Global Ecology >> 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA >> +1 650 704 7212 [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab >> https://twitter.com/KenCaldeira >> >> Assistant: Dawn Ross <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "geoengineering" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','geoengineering%[email protected]');> >> . >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- _______________ Ken Caldeira Carnegie Institution for Science Dept of Global Ecology 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA +1 650 704 7212 [email protected] http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab https://twitter.com/KenCaldeira Assistant: Dawn Ross <[email protected]> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
