Chris etal

        1.  Thanks.  I did indeed find the full Irvine letter at 
http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.1038/nclimate2360?utm_campaign=readcube_access&utm_source=nature.com&utm_medium=purchase_option&utm_content=thumb_version
        Much easier to read than in the email sent by Greg Rau.

        2.  Nature is also willing to sell it to you for $18 (the only source I 
earlier found) at: 
http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v4/n10/full/nclimate2360.html .
I misunderstood the "readcube" option.

        3.  My main point though remains - that this seems to be an exchange of 
pro-con views on SRM that this list would presumably like to hear more about.  
We have the Irvine side, but not yet a short summary of the Barrett et al side 
- perhaps even best with Barrett et al (or surrogates) responding to Irvine et 
al.

Ron



On Oct 6, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Chris Vivian <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ron,
>  
> With regard to your point 1, you have seen the full text as it was a 'Letter 
> to the Editor' not a paper.
>  
> Chris.
> 
> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:51:57 PM UTC+1, Ron wrote:
> Greg, Andrew, list:
> 
>       1.  Thanks for the saving on paying for an abstract.  Hopefully someone 
> can supply a location to see the full paper or include me in any off-list 
> distribution.
> 
>       2.  The Irvine - Barrett dialog is on governmental policy toward the 
> SRM side of geoengineering.   However many forms of CDR are both mitigation 
> (by ICCP definitions), and still a geoengineering approach (there is overlap 
> in a Venn diagram sense).  This note to expand the governmental policy 
> discussion a bit.
> 
>       3.  The first good news I am aware of on the broader geoengineering 
> political feasibility topic was announced a few days ago.  The City of 
> Stockholm won one million Euros in a (former NYC Mayor) Bloomberg competition 
> between larger European cities.  There are dozens of announcement cites 
> possible via easy googling. Harder to find was the 15 page winning proposal 
> from Stockholm, which directly and favorably addresses the issue of political 
> feasibility (first time ever?).  I am unaware of any other competition entry 
> that was geo-oriented; none of the four other winners was.  Stockholm's entry 
> was on biochar.  Maybe some of the city's thoughts could inform the SRM 
> debate -  the Bloomberg judging panel found "governmental policy" (the 
> contest theme) merit.
> 
> 
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