I think people are concerned about conflict from geoengineering but I don't think they are any more concerned about nuclear war risks from geoengineering than from any other cause of conflict and probably much less so. I would agree that preventing new causes of conflict is a credible reason for avoiding or delaying geoengineering but as so often the case on this list we have to remember that* avoiding *mitigation is almost certain to increase the severity of known and much more probable causes of conflict. ᐧ
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Jamais Cascio <cas...@openthefuture.com> wrote: > This isn’t that difficult to see. A country takes desperate action taken > in order to support/protect itself, but that action has global effects, > including the potential for major system-disrupting changes to critical > ocean-atmospheric systems already under enormous stress. One nation’s > last-ditch attempt at self-preservation becomes another nation’s potential > existential risk. > > Country 1: “If I don’t do this, I’ll likely die. You can’t stop me.” > Country 2: “If you do this, we may die. We must stop you.” > > It’s definitely a concern among the government types and policy-makers > I’ve spoken to/worked with. > > -Jamais Cascio > > > > On Apr 17, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Andrew Lockley <andrew.lock...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > What makes you think that geoengineering would be the trigger for nuclear > war anymore than everything else people have been squabbling over for the > last seventy years? > > A > On 17 Apr 2015 21:00, "Alan Robock" <rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu> wrote: > >> Cloud control: Climatologist Alan Robock on the effects of geoengineering >> and nuclear war >> >> Abstract >> In this interview, Rutgers University climatologist Alan Robock talks >> with Elisabeth Eaves from the Bulletin >> about geoengineering and nuclear winter. He says that geoengineering is >> not the solution to global warming >> because of its many risks and unknowns. He notes that some of the >> technology that would be required to >> implement geoengineering has not been developed and that many >> socio-political questions would have to be >> resolved before it could be put into practice. The world would have to >> reach agreement on a target temperature >> and on what entity should do the implementing. Robock's biggest fear with >> regard to geoengineering is that >> disputes over these questions could escalate into nuclear war which in >> turn could cause nuclear winter, >> producing global famine among other effects. He goes on to describe his >> meeting with former Cuban President >> Fidel Castro and discuss the role of the arts in addressing existential >> threats. >> >> Attached. >> >> -- >> Alan >> >> Alan Robock, Distinguished Professor >> Editor, Reviews of Geophysics >> Director, Meteorology Undergraduate Program >> Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-848-932-5751 >> Rutgers University Fax: +1-732-932-8644 >> 14 College Farm Road E-mail: rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu >> New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551 USA http://envsci.rutgers.edu/~robock >> http://twitter.com/AlanRobock >> Watch my 18 min TEDx talk at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsrEk1oZ-54 >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "geoengineering" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
