I think I overstated my formulation. I was not talking about the science
but really the level of enthusiasm and energy around various options. While
we see people full-throatedly arguing for MOAR BECCS NOW we don't really
see the same breadth of enthusiasm for immediate SAI.
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On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Ken Caldeira <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think of carbon dioxide removal as a form of mitigation and of solar
> geoengineering as an extreme form of adaptation.
>
> They are not not mutually exclusive, and not substitutes except insofar as
> more carbon dioxide removal reduces the motivation to deploy solar
> geoengineering.
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 07:52 Fred Zimmerman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> What I find interesting about this is that it had seemed to me that this 
>> community
>> had largely moved on to CDR & especially BECCS as the preferred mechanism,
>> most people accepting David Keith's view of SAI as a last-ditch option for
>> slowing the rate of change.  Do others agree with my formulation?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Andrew Lockley <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cia.gov/news-information/speeches-testimony/2016-speeches-testimony/director-brennan-speaks-at-the-council-on-foreign-relations.html
>>>
>>> Extract
>>>
>>> Another example is the array of technologies—often referred to
>>> collectively as geoengineering—that potentially could help reverse the
>>> warming effects of global climate change. One that has gained my personal
>>> attention is stratospheric aerosol injection, or SAI, a method of seeding
>>> the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun’s heat, in
>>> much the same way that volcanic eruptions do.
>>>
>>> An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some
>>> risks associated with higher temperatures and providing the world economy
>>> additional time to transition from fossil fuels. The process is also
>>> relatively inexpensive—the National Research Council estimates that a fully
>>> deployed SAI program would cost about $10 billion yearly.
>>>
>>> As promising as it may be, moving forward on SAI would raise a number of
>>> challenges for our government and for the international community. On the
>>> technical side, greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to
>>> accompany SAI to address other climate change effects, such as ocean
>>> acidification, because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the
>>> atmosphere.
>>>
>>> On the geopolitical side, the technology’s potential to alter weather
>>> patterns and benefit certain regions at the expense of others could trigger
>>> sharp opposition by some nations. Others might seize on SAI’s benefits and
>>> back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions. And, as with
>>> other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to
>>> guide the deployment and implementation of SAI.
>>>
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