Attenborough et al (link or website?) certainly must be referring to SRM.
Otherwise, would the world be less insane, delusional and fascist if we turned
off the 20 Gt/yr CDR that is naturally occurring? Another reason CDR and SRM
deserve separate discussions (with all due respect for this "geoengineering"
google group).Greg
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Subject: RE: [geo] Environmentalists that denounce climate eng research; what
to do?
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think it is similar to the problems associated with climate scepticism. I
remember when I first heard about “mirrors in space” as proposed (I think) by
Paul Crutzen, in the early 2000s. I’ve worked in the biodiversity arena since
the mid-1980s, and I was horrified. It seemed a license to continue spewing out
CO2. The problem is our collective yen to mythologize: that image of great
big reflectors in space still probably underpins much of the hostility to
geoengineering (apologies in advance to Oliver Morton as I am sure he goes into
all of this in his book, which I have, but not yet read). Now of course (and
in large part by learning from the exchanges on this list) I know better – of
course we need geoengineering, and in addition we now know (which I don’t think
most of us knew in say, c.2006) that we need a massive amount of negative
emissions. DAC was not on the table as a serious solution, back then, but it is
now. So that is what I think this community needs to concentrate on its
media/celebrity outreach: the potential of geoengineering solutions to remove
atmospheric CO2. That is a quite different narrative from the prevention of
global warming by deflecting solar rays. From:
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Sent: 28 August 2017 19:37
To: durbrow <[email protected]>; geoengineering
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [geo] Environmentalists that denounce climate eng research; what
to do? Centrally controlled CE certainly isn't the only approach. It can be
democratic or decentralised. I'm working on a paper concerning decentralised
governance A On 28 Aug 2017 19:29, "Eric Durbrow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Attenborough referred to climate engineering as “fascist" (he meant that
a small group of people would control the climate) and Gore has called it
“insane…delusional". Bill McKibben called it a "serious deadend” Is it too
late to reach out to environmental leaders and get them to change their minds
for *research* in climate engineering? E.g. an open-letter editorial in the
Times, etc. Or do celebrity leaders actually have minimal impact among
grassroots environmentalists and activists? --
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