Also, it can make a difference if you are in a climate zone that gets cold in the winter as the darker roof can help with warming in the winter. I wonder if a good question might be whether having snow on the roof provides an insulating effect in winter that would make up for having a while instead of a black roof?

Mike


On 11/11/17 7:03 PM, Andrew Lockley wrote:
Being a pedant, it's important to consider the thermal mass of the roof, as this makes a big difference to temperature variation. Variations, in turn, greatly increase perception of discomfort - a draft is cold, a cave is merely cool.

On 11 Nov 2017 23:27, "John Harte" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I assigned that problem as a homework assignment in a course I teach.


    2.  Consider a house in a relatively hot, sunny location such as
    Southern California.

    a. To keep the house cool without air conditioning, and thereby
    reduce energy demand, its inhabitants decide to do one of two things:

      i.  They can paint the roof white, increasing its albedo from
    0.1 to 0.8, or

      ii.  They can grow a green roof, using a productive species of
    grass that will increase the albedo of the roof from 0.1 to 0.2
    and that, if watered and fertilized adequately, will cool the
    house by transpiration.  The rate of transpiration can be
    estimated from the following: for every kg of grass produced, 300
    kg of water are transpired, and the grass grows with an overall
    photosynthetic efficiency of 1%.

    a. Ignoring the issue of water supply, which of these strategies
    (i. or ii.) will result in a cooler house?  (20 pts.)

    Solution: 2. a.  First, let’s examine the effect of painting the
    roof white. We’ll assume an average solar flux on the roof of 250
    watts/m^2 (if you assumed anything between 170 and 300 we will
    accept it.).  By changing the albedo from 0.1 to 0.8, the home is
    avoiding the absorption of 0.7 (250) = *175 watts/m^2 *, *which is
    the benefit of plan i.*  For plan ii., we need to estimate NPP on
    the roof first. At 1% of available energy, the plants are
    converting 2.5 watts/m^2 to biomass. Over a year, this is (2.5
    joules/sec-m^2 ) x (3.1 x 107 sec) = 77.5 x megajoules/m^2
    incorporated into biomass.  Using the conversion: of 16
    megajoules(dry biomass) per kg, we find that biomass is produced
    at an annual rate of  77.5/16 = 4.8 kg (dry biomass0/m^2 .  Now
    using the 300:1 ratio of transpired water to photosynthesized
    biomass, we get 4.8 x 300 = 1450 kg(transpired water)/year. 
    Transpiring a kilogram of water requires about 2.4 x 10^6 joules
    (see COW Appendix) and so each year about 2.4 x 10^6 x 1450 = 3.5
    x 10^9 joules/m^2 annually are causing transpiration rather than
    heating the house.  Expressed in power units, this is 3.5 x 10^9
    (joules/m^2 )/3.1 x 10^7 sec= *113 watts/m^2 , which is the
    transpiration benefit of plan ii. *But there is also a small
    albedo benefit of grass versus dark shingle, so we get an
    additional benefit which is 1/7 of the plan i. benefit (due to an
    albedo increase of 0.1 rather than 0.7), so now we have 113 +
    (1/7) 175 = *138 watts/m^2 , which is the albedo benefit of plan
    ii.* *So plan i. wins by a little. *


    The problem went on to evaluate the added benefit if you burn the
    grass on the roof for fuel.

    I actually replaced my dark shingle roof this autumn with
    light-colored composition shingle.  It makes a huge difference!



    John Harte
    Professor of Ecosystem Sciences
    ERG/ESPM
    310 Barrows Hall
    University of California
    Berkeley, CA 94720  USA
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>



    On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Russell Seitz
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    How do green roofs, which cool by evapotransportation  ( rooftop
    lawns require water much as those on the ground do) compare in
    cooling efficiency  with higher albedo white roofs combined with
     an equal volume of water spraying when the sun is high?

    On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 12:16:10 AM UTC-5, E Durbrow
    wrote:


        Perhaps, tangental. Seville planners think they can cool
        their city despite significant temperature increase with
        204-700 hectares of green roofs.

        Summary:

        https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171110113938.htm
        <https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171110113938.htm>


        Comment: My layperson’s understanding is that it is very
        difficult to predict and simulate city-wide changes in
        temperature when a modification (e.g. reflective roofs, green
        space, etc) occurs. I though I remember that reading that
        reflective roofs might have no effect on local temperature
        (city’s micro-climate). Modelers, is this the case?


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