Yes, decisive military action would probably be the most effective way to 
stop SRM, but many people in many cases would find war to be a 
disproportionate response to unwanted geoengineering. 
Counter-geoengineering might be preferable to global war, but I think that 
if we ever get to the stage where counter-geoengineering or military action 
are considered then diplomacy has failed and we're in trouble.


On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 3:26:51 PM UTC+1, Andrew Lockley wrote:
>
> The most effective counter geoengineering technology is probably a 
> surface-to-air missile.
>
> I've a paper on security issues in draft; contact from prospective 
> collaborators is welcome. 
>
> A
>
> On Wed, 16 May 2018, 15:18 Andy Parker, <apar...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Josh Horton, David Keith and I have written a paper about 
>> counter-geoengineering and it was published today in Earth’s Future 
>> https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1029/2018EF000864. 
>> Counter-geoengineering 
>> <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1029/2018EF000864.Counter-geoengineering>
>>  
>> we define as the use of technical means to negate the change in radiative 
>> forcing caused by SRM deployment. Typically people think about the 
>> deliberate release of potent greenhouses gases when they think of 
>> counter-geoengineering, but other methods are possible.
>>
>>  
>>
>> We wrote the paper because the idea of counter-geoengineering crops up 
>> from time to time in discussions of SRM, but no one has yet done any 
>> serious analysis of how it might be done or what the implications might be. 
>> We try to address both of these things and we conclude:
>>
>> - there are two potential methods for counter-geoengineering: 
>> “countervailing”, which would entail the release of warming agents (such as 
>> greenhouse gases or aerosols), and “neutralising”, which would consist of 
>> removing or otherwise rendering inert the original SRM agent.
>>
>> - Any state that could credibly threaten to counter-geoengineer might 
>> have an effective veto over SRM use. This could provide a counter against 
>> unilateral SRM use and could nudge decision-making towards multilateralism. 
>> Alternatively, it could result in spiralling brinkmanship over the climate, 
>> environmental damage, and conflict.
>>
>> - We hope that these technologies will not be developed or used. The fact 
>> that SRM may be needed to counter climate change represents a collective 
>> failure to limit GHG emissions. The development and use of 
>> counter-geoengineering would be a further testament to the international 
>> system’s inability to resolve climate disagreements in a constructive way.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Speaking personally, I’m sceptical that counter-geoengineering will ever 
>> be developed. To me it seems that the barriers to development are too high 
>> and the potential uses are too niche and so I can’t see anyone bothering to 
>> try. I hope that’s right, but I'm finding that what I hope for is having 
>> less and less influence on real world political developments.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Note that David and Josh made a video discussing this research with their 
>> colleague Peter Irvine: https://player.vimeo.com/video/269265108. They 
>> have similar reservations to me regarding the feasibility and desirability 
>> of counter-geoengineering and they discuss this and more in the video.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Andy
>>
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