Hadn't heard this.....yes, this would indeed be geoengineering (of weather, with unintended climate consequences).....it just gets crazier and crazier.....
<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 1:35 AM Andrew Lockley <[email protected]> wrote: > Poster's note: obliquely relevant as MCB is potentially able to influence > hurricanes > > Axios: Trump suggested dropping nuclear bombs into hurricanes to stop them > from hitting the U.S.. > > https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html > > Scoop: Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S.[image: > Illustration of Trump pressing nuclear button] > Illustration: Lazaro Gamio/Axios > > President Trump has suggested multiple times to senior Homeland Security > and national security officials that they explore using nuclear bombs to > stop hurricanes from hitting the United States, according to sources who > have heard the president's private remarks and been briefed on a National > Security Council memorandum that recorded those comments. > > Behind the scenes: During one hurricane briefing at the White House, > Trump said, "I got it. I got it. Why don't we nuke them?" according to one > source who was there. "They start forming off the coast of Africa, as > they're moving across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the > hurricane and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?" the source added, > paraphrasing the president's remarks. > > - Asked how the briefer reacted, the source recalled he said something > to the effect of, "Sir, we'll look into that." > - Trump replied by asking incredulously how many hurricanes the U.S. > could handle and reiterating his suggestion that the government intervene > before they make landfall. > - The briefer "was knocked back on his heels," the source in the room > added. "You could hear a gnat fart in that meeting. People were astonished. > After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with > this?'" > > Trump also raised the idea in another conversation with a senior > administration official. A 2017 NSC memo describes that second > conversation, in which Trump asked whether the administration should bomb > hurricanes to stop them from hitting the homeland. A source briefed on the > NSC memo said it does not contain the word "nuclear"; it just says the > president talked about bombing hurricanes. > > - The source added that this NSC memo captured "multiple topics, not > just hurricanes. … It wasn't that somebody was so terrified of the bombing > idea that they wrote it down. They just captured the president’s comments." > - The sources said that Trump's "bomb the hurricanes" idea — which he > floated early in the first year and a bit of his presidency before John > Bolton took over as national security adviser — went nowhere and never > entered a formal policy process. > > White House response: A senior administration official said, "We don't > comment on private discussions that the president may or may not have had > with his national security team." > > - A different senior administration official, who has been briefed on > the president's hurricane bombing suggestion, defended Trump's idea and > said it was no cause for alarm. "His goal — to keep a catastrophic > hurricane from hitting the mainland — is not bad," the official said. "His > objective is not bad." > - "What people near the president do is they say 'I love a president > who asks questions like that, who’s willing to ask tough questions.' ... It > takes strong people to respond to him in the right way when stuff like this > comes up. For me, alarm bells weren't going off when I heard about it, but > I did think somebody is going to use this to feed into 'the president is > crazy' narrative." > > The big picture: Trump didn't invent this idea. The notion that > detonating a nuclear bomb over the eye of a hurricane could be used to > counteract convection currents dates to the Eisenhower era, when it was > floated by a government scientist. > > - The idea keeps resurfacing in the public even though scientists > agree it won't work. The myth has been so persistent that the National > Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the U.S. government agency that > predicts changes in weather and the oceans, published an online fact > sheet for the public <https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5c.html> under > the heading "Tropical Cyclone Myths Page." > - The page states: "Apart from the fact that this might not even alter > the storm, this approach neglects the problem that the released radioactive > fallout would fairly quickly move with the tradewinds to affect land areas > and cause devastating environmental problems. Needless to say, this is not > a good idea." > > About 3 weeks after Trump's 2016 election, National Geographic published > <https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/11/hurricanes-weather-history-nuclear-weapons/> > an > article titled, "Nuking Hurricanes: The Surprising History of a Really Bad > Idea." It found, among other problems, that: > > - Dropping a nuclear bomb into a hurricane would be banned under the > terms of the Peaceful Nuclear Explosions Treaty between the U.S. and the > former Soviet Union. 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