Hi Stephen,

you're correct and I'd think the negative SW RF is more offset by the positive LW RF in the tropics than in the high latitudes (alike the pattern of RF by WMGHG). But again, the pattern of a not-too-inhomogeneous forcing is only moderately important.

Regards

Olivier

Hi All

But you also have to consider outgoing long wave radiation especially in winter.

Stephen

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On 17/02/2020 08:35, Olivier Boucher wrote:

Dear Tamas,

there are typically 3 effects that govern RF by stratospheric aerosols as a function of latitude for a given aerosol burden. Let's think in terms of solar zenith angle (one has then to integrate over SZA which is a function of latitude and season)

1/ insolation decreases with SZA as cos(theta) where theta is the SZA

2/ air mass increases with  SZA as 1/cos(theta), of course the effect this has breaks down at some point because of multiple scattering

3/ upscattering function also increases with SZA (because more forward scattering contributes to upscattering).

You could assume 1/ and 2/ cancel each other at first approximation, so because of 3/ there is indeed more RF at larger SZA. In fact there is an optimum around SZA=60° but that depends on the AOD and how much multiple scattering there is.

Now life is a bit more complicated, as transport and aerosol size varies also.

In any case, the climate response is not a copy-paste of the spatial distribution of the RF. It matters but not too much. And it matters more for rapid adjustments than for feedbacks. See eg https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2013JD021110

Regards,

Olivier


Dear All,

I would like to ask for some useful references about sulfate aerosol geoengineering. 
Assuming some uniform aerosol coverage around the globe, at some height, with a certain 
vertical layer thickness, i would imagine that at higher latitudes the radiative forcing 
exerted by the aerosols is larger due to the longer distance of travel of sun rays 
through the aerosol "cloud". As a consequence, the latitude-dependence of the 
downward-directed radiative forcing should have an even larger gradient than solar 
irradiance. Therefore, I’m wondering how big mistake it is to model such a geoengineering 
scenario by dimming the sun.

Any feedback or reference would be much appreciated.

Thank you,

Tamas

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