I have been invited to give evidence at the UK Houses of Parliament on three 
occasions so far.

Like abrupt climate change, there may be also abrupt sea level rise. The 
long-standing paradigm has been of gradual sea level rise by the glaciers and 
ice sheets melting peacefully in situ to oblivion. This has been against 
historic and traditional sources citing often very violent sea flood.

My second evidence-giving session at the UK Houses of Parliament focused on the 
metamorphosis of cold, dry, stable and moraine-forming ice sheets into warm, 
wet, dynamic and aggregate-forming ice sheets that suddenly collapse, before 
leaving behind dead ice sheets, odd-bit stuck ice.
https://www.academia.edu/37157851/Our_Changing_Climate_in_Action_the_Risk_of_Global_Warming_and_the_Environmental_Damage_from_the_Rising_Ocean_Water_Table_Sustainable_Seas_Enquiry_Written_evidence_submitted_by_Veli_Albert_Kallio_FRGS_SSI0121_Ordered_to_be_published_23_May_2018_by_the_House_of_Commons

Several new papers have been citing my Parliament evidence that draws on soil 
formation and surface geology processes much as climate and glaciers 
themselves. The key process driving behind the change is the switchover of Type 
1 moulins (seasonal impact moulins) into Type 2 moulins and crevasses 
(accumulative impact moulins and crevasses) where meltwater builds up within 
ice sheet and beneath it without draining out before the start of the following 
melt season.

Summer 2019 saw already some Greenland glaciers covered by up to 100 mm 
standing layer of melt water. The exhaustive ice sheet surface water cover will 
begin to form once the Arctic Ocean and the North Pole become ice-free during 
the summertime 24-hour sunlight season. The water will drain but always leave 
behind the dirt which then acts as vicious feedback loop for next melt.

My first evidence-giving 4th April gave the background onto the processes and 
the overall cotext of the rapid and often abrupt changes now occurring in the 
Arctic - some of which have not been foreseen and forethought. 24th April, 
referenced text includes the sources (due to Parliament protocols that 
truncated the 5th April text). The referenced text gives many good text sources.
https://www.academia.edu/33000316/MPs_to_review_UKs_role_in_Arctic_sustainability_-_24th_April_2017.docx
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(DOC) MPs to review UK's role in Arctic sustainability - 24th April 2017.docx | 
Veli Albert Kallio - 
Academia.edu<https://www.academia.edu/33000316/MPs_to_review_UKs_role_in_Arctic_sustainability_-_24th_April_2017.docx>
The draft paper as at 24th April which is updated from the draft made for the 
oral presentation session (5th April 2017 does not contain any references and 
text errors needed corrections). The paper is still being worked on with more 
sections being
www.academia.edu
However, my 3rd evidence-giving session I was not able to put out because in 
the mean time I was given task to prepare a long presentation at the United 
Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) for the Bonn conference 
preparing for the next UN Conference of Parties (COP).

The key elements of the third evidence-giving session at Parliament would have 
been as follows:

1) the role of melting permafrost mountain and sea bed structures held together 
by frost, and the resulting melting from sustained higher air temperatures 
compromising continental margins both above and below sea level. This poses 
dangers like the recent tsunami in Greenland when coastal mountain collapsed 
into sea throwing off 95 metre tsunami wash, with one town affected with 
fatalities. The additional danger being a Storegga type slide below water line 
when permafrost melts and weakens.

2) furthering the concerns risen by the Loma Linda Geoscience Institute report 
which was attached exhaustively as part of my second evidence-giving at UK 
Houses of Parliament. This described a huge Schollen erratic boulder which at 
one point had had dimensions of miles being pushed by warmed and melted glacier 
as the Ice Ages came towards its end in Europe. The furthering look at the 
concepts of "cabracan", "zipcana", and "three heart-stones" processes on the 
deglaciation. In particular the role of ice penetration into geological faults 
and its effect of fracking and lubricating large pieces of rock becoming 
separated and behaving as if coated with teflon-life lubricant as a possible 
reason for the north side of the Laurentide Ice Sheet occurring with multitude 
islets.

3) look at the further papers following my evidence on the new inputs on the 
rapid erosion processes (cavitation, plucking, kolking, planing, subglacial 
turbidic rock currents) which have taken my points and furthered them in 
certain aspects.

4) look at the issue why methane appears to be building up at certain altitudes 
(air pressure levels) which also appear to be above the glacier level, hence 
not appearing in ice core records, and the misleading impression of low to 
non-extant methane presence due to only partial caption of methane-in-transit. 
This then leading to underestimating the role of methane in climate warming 
scenarios that impact the deglaciation processes driven by global warming - as 
discussed in our presentation and poster at Anthropology, Weather, and Climate 
Change at the British Museum.
https://www.academia.edu/29473262/Looking_At_The_Forward_Running_Clocks_-_Carbon_Cycles_and_Time_From_Pleistocene_to_Present
[http://a.academia-assets.com/images/open-graph-icons/fb-paper.gif]<https://www.academia.edu/29473262/Looking_At_The_Forward_Running_Clocks_-_Carbon_Cycles_and_Time_From_Pleistocene_to_Present>
(PDF) 'Looking At The Forward Running Clocks' - Carbon Cycles and Time From 
Pleistocene to Present | Veli Albert Kallio, Mursalin Binte Monnaf, and Sam 
Carana - 
Academia.edu<https://www.academia.edu/29473262/Looking_At_The_Forward_Running_Clocks_-_Carbon_Cycles_and_Time_From_Pleistocene_to_Present>
Sea Research Society's poster "Looking At The Forward Running Clocks' - Carbon 
Cycles and Time From Pleistocene to Present" was presented at a major 
international conference organised by Royal Anthropological Institute (RAI):
www.academia.edu
In the above, I have received full support and help from Professor Sir Ghillean 
Prance, Fellow of Royal Society and the director of the Royal Botanical Gardens 
at Kew, London as well as the editor of the Arctic News, Sam Carana, among 
others which was presented under authority of Sea Research Society.

I have also been looking at geysers and hot water springs role as potential ice 
sheet, ice cap, and glacier melting feedback which featured in my presentation 
for the Frozen Isthmuses' Protection Campaign of the Arctic and North Atlantic 
Oceans at the Cochabamba-Tiquipaya climate summit. As yet, there is no evidence 
from Greenland of any intensification of above occurring, but in Antarctica 
there are number of active and dormant volcanoes in subglacial setting. Because 
the depressurisation is only obvious after extensive ablation, its occurrence 
is perhaps towards ending of glaciation when the system has already been 
destabilised by the warmed climate.

All above adds up further uncertainties in our understanding of future sea 
levels, the amount of tsunamogenic events and continental margin stabilities 
where there is presence of frosting.

Veli Albert Kallio, FRGS
Vice President, Sea Research Society
Environmental Affairs Department
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Research_Society
[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/af/Sea_Research_Society%27s_first_headquarters.jpg/1200px-Sea_Research_Society%27s_first_headquarters.jpg]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Research_Society>
Sea Research Society - 
Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Research_Society>
The Sea Research Society (SRS) is a non-profit educational research 
organization founded in 1972. Its general purpose is to promote scientific and 
educational endeavors in any of the marine sciences or marine histories with 
the goal of obtaining knowledge for the ultimate benefit to mankind. It does 
both archival research and underwater expeditions in search of historic 
shipwrecks.
en.wikipedia.org
https://exploresrs.academia.edu/VeliKallio
Veli Albert Kallio | Sea Research Society - 
Academia.edu<https://exploresrs.academia.edu/VeliKallio>
Veli Albert Kallio, Sea Research Society, Environmental Affairs Department, 
Faculty Member. Studies Climate Change, Climatology, and Meteorology.
exploresrs.academia.edu
https://www.linkedin.com/in/veli-albert-kallio-84b83114/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSpCbn8JDvM
[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.WqjPiBNBWlX833wCJZGdDAEsDh&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSpCbn8JDvM>
The Link Between Receding Glaciers and Natural 
Disasters<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSpCbn8JDvM>
http://SupremeMasterTV.com—PLANET EARTH: OUR LOVING HOME Veli Albert Kallio: 
The Link Between Receding Glaciers and Natural Disasters. Episode: 1392, Air 
Date: 7 July 2010
www.youtube.com





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behalf of Stephen Salter <[email protected]>
Sent: 26 February 2020 11:07
To: geoengineering <[email protected]>
Subject: [geo] Sea level rise


Hi All

The site

https://climatenewsnetwork.net/author/tim-radford/

has a bit about sea level rise, grim but not surprising.

I have asked some of you to tell me about mistakes or better assumptions for 
the attached. Only two replies but no killers so far.

Stephen

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