The ordering referred to at the end of the prior post is: (1) cooling, (2)
adaptation, (3) reduction, (4) removal.
Best,
Ron

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 10:56 AM Ron Baiman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> Absolutely agree on the priority and emergency of (1) direct cooling but I
> think we can make this point  while
> also remaining forceful advocates for (2) emissions reductions, (3)
> adaptation including loss and damage, and (4) GHG removal, by pointing out
> that large scale climate disaster and imminent first tipping point (arctic
> summer sea ice melting) is already happening at current levels of warming,
> and that we either are already, or are about to, cross (the now obviously
> too generous) 1.5 and 2.0 theoretical climate thresholds as there is no way
> in hell that we're going to "halve global emissions in eight years" by 2030
> as the IPCC 1.5 special report indicated must be done to keep global
> warming below 1.5. - below is an excerpt from the latest (not officially
> approved) HPAC White Paper draft 😊.
>
> "There is absolutely no possibility that we will cut half of global GHG
> emissions by 2030 which according to a 2021 United Nations Environmental
> Program report would be necessary to keep global warming below 1.5 °C by
> 2100.1  To the contrary, the World Meteorological Association estimates
> that there is a 50:50 chance of the annual average global temperature
> temporarily reaching 1.5 °C in at least one of the next five years (2022 –
> 2026)2, and recent research suggests that even if GHG emissions were
> stopped immediately in 2022, the level of GHGs already in the atmosphere
> will produce above 2.0 °C warming by 2100.3,
>
> [1] “To keep global warming below 1.5°C this century, the aspirational
> goal of the Paris Agreement, the world needs to halve annual greenhouse gas
> emissions in the next eight years.” United Nations Environmental Program.
> Emissions Gap Report 2021. Oct. 26, 2021:
> https://www.unep.org/resources/emissions-gap-report-2021
>
> [1] World Meteorological Organization. May 9, 2022:
> https://public.wmo.int/en/media/press-release/wmo-update-5050-chance-of-global-temperature-temporarily-reaching-15%C2%B0c-threshold
>
> [1] Zhou, Chen, Mark D. Zelinka, Andrew E. Dressler, and Minghuai Wang.
> 2021. Greater committed warming after accounting for the pattern effect.
> Nature Climate Change Vol. 11 February: 132-136."
>
>
> I think we can all agree that (1) and (2) are short term emergencies, and
> (3) and (4) are long-term restoration and ecological regeneration efforts
> to reposition our entire political economy and human civilization toward a
> "renewable energy and materials economy" and our relationship with nature. 
> *They
> (not direct climate cooling) are the heavy but necessary lift *that,
> without a global cap a trade regime that induces mandatory (not wholly
> inadequate voluntary "Climate Fund")  transfers funding and technology from
> rich to poor countries, could take a very long time - into the next
> century.  The cooling part is (as you have aptly put it) is a practical
> "tourniquet" (or I used the term "triage" paliative) effort to stem
> planetary  bleeding as we work to actually solve the long-term problems
> that should be, relatively speaking, an easier lift, certainly in terms of
> money and resources, but also in terms of governance as  it doesn't require
> a top to bottom transformation of the global economy.  I think this is the
> point that your diagram is getting at - but the politics of substituting
> cooling and CDR for emissions reductions would I think (as many of others
> in this thread have noted) be a mistake. Noe of (1) - (4) above should be
> substitutes - the EU (as I recall) has made this point as part of an effort
> to set strictly separable emissions and GHG removal targets.
>
> Best,
> Ron
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 6:40 AM 'Robert Tulip' via NOAC Meetings <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The attached Climate Security Timeline shows a new suggestion on climate
>> priorities.
>>
>>
>>
>> It calls for a shift away from emission reduction as the main agenda, to
>> instead focus at global level on albedo enhancement.  Brightening the
>> planet to reflect more sunlight can stabilise and reverse the movement
>> toward a hotter world as the foundation of a new climate approach.  Agreed
>> systems to increase albedo should be in place before 2030.  With a brighter
>> planet as the foundation, the direct cooling effects make time available to
>> scale up greenhouse gas conversion and removal to levels well above
>> emissions. By the 2040s, GGC&R can produce steady decline in GHG levels
>> over the second half of this century.  Carbon dioxide conversion can store
>> hundreds of billions of tonnes of carbon in valuable locations such as
>> soil, biomass, etc, reducing the need to sequester as CO2.  Market demand
>> can regulate global emissions, which at annual scale are a minor factor in
>> radiative forcing compared to albedo and GHG concentrations.
>>
>>
>>
>> The critical engineering path suggested for the planetary climate is like
>> building a house.  Albedo is the foundation, greenhouse gas conversions and
>> removals are the walls, and decarbonisation caps the roof by a future move
>> away from fossil fuels.  You cannot build walls and roof until you have
>> laid the foundation.  That creates a timeline whereby global focus on a
>> brighter world in this decade can replace the sole political emphasis on
>> emissions and can give practical support to the recognition that removal of
>> atmospheric carbon is essential.
>>
>>
>>
>> Without higher albedo, GHG effects cannot cool the planet. Higher albedo
>> can only be engineered by peaceful global cooperation on new technologies
>> such as marine cloud brightening. Albedo needs to be addressed first,
>> especially at the poles,  where refreezing should be an immediate global
>> priority for climate security.  Turning the polar oceans from dark to light
>> by stopping the melting of summer ice will make a critical difference in
>> the planetary energy balance. A main focus on albedo will give time for the
>> slower effects of GHG conversion, removal and reduction to contribute over
>> the next decades to a stable and secure and productive planetary climate.
>> This order of priorities can sustain the biosphere conditions that have
>> enabled humans and all other living species to flourish on our planet Earth.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert Tulip
>>
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