Hi Daniel, picking up on the diet analogy, I did not mention protein, your focus in your comment, but rather fat.
The counter-intuitive observation in nutrition, comparable to the observation that cutting emissions cannot rapidly cool the planet, is that in general eating fat does not make you fat, according to numerous scientific studies <https://www.businessinsider.com/eating-fat-wont-make-you-fat-gain-weight-says-doctor-2017-11> . Body fat mainly comes from excess sugar and refined carbohydrate, metabolised into fat <https://healthcare.utah.edu/the-scope/shows.php?shows=0_7frg4jjd> by the liver and pancreas, not from eating fatty food. In both cases, cutting fat intake and cutting GHG emissions, we have what Mencken <https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/07/17/solution/> called “a well-known solution to every human problem—neat, plausible, and wrong.” The natural process is more complex than at first thought. Cutting emissions marginally slows the speed of future warming, but fails to address either the committed warming from past emissions, the need to prevent climate tipping points and extreme weather, or the observation that albedo is the most tractable planetary lever to reverse and manage climate change. Could prioritising albedo also fall foul of Mencken’s warning against clear and simple answers? I don’t think so. Scientific evidence for the potential of solar geoengineering to cool the planet is strong, unlike for decarbonisation. The situation is that climate policy has drifted on from its original claim that cutting emissions can mitigate climate change without really examining this proposition. The confusion is aided by the IPCC wrongly defining mitigation as cutting emissions alone, in the popular jargon. As a result, the methods that actually do mitigate climate change, SRM and CDR, have been sidelined, and we are left with no effective tools to mitigate the serious dangers of warming. It is a bit like how low-fat diets did nothing to slow the obesity epidemic. Robert Tulip From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Daniel Kieve Sent: Thursday, 22 September 2022 10:18 AM To: Robert Tulip <[email protected]> Cc: geoengineering <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> <[email protected]>; Planetary Restoration <[email protected]>; healthy-planet-action-coalition <[email protected]>; Arctic Methane Google Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Albedo Thanks Robert. Very insightful. I'd be a bit wary of the diet analogy though. The modern Western approach where foods are grouped into 'carbs' and 'proteins' is an oversimplification, which suits the narrative of a diet based on processed foods (white flour etc) and overconsumption of meat products. Consumption of excess of either food type is associated with heightened risk of serious / chronic illness. In fact many of the healthiest natural, unprocessed food items are a combination of protein and carbs...combined with other nutritional attributes (vitamins, fibre etc). Lentils, quinoa, nuts, seeds and certain wholegrains contain substantial amount of both protein and carbohydrate - as do the healthiest diets (eg Mediterranean diet). For example, red split lentils contain over 25% protein (higher than much meat or eggs), as well as 55% carb - but only 1.5% is sugars, so lentils are a combined protein + complex carbohydrate + fibre source - not an either or food type! In the same way, HPAC advocates a 'healthy' three pronged approach rather than the narrow, oversimplified, disastrous decarb only (or protein only) narrative! Best wishes, Daniel On Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 23:43 'Robert Tulip' via Planetary Restoration <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Friends Here is commentary I have written on current climate policy. Robert Tulip <https://www.booktalk.org/https-youtu-be-mzzddjhyank-t33608.html> Why Increasing Albedo is More Urgent than Cutting Emissions <https://www.booktalk.org/post179705.html#p179705> 11 Aug 2022 I have made a YouTube Video – 16 minutes - <https://youtu.be/MzZDDjHYAnk> https://youtu.be/MzZDDjHYAnk - explaining this topic. The Problem Cutting emissions and removing greenhouse gases can’t stop climate tipping points Politics and economics make cutting emissions difficult, expensive and slow. The world situation is like a canoe headed for a waterfall Viable cooling technologies lack funds, publicity and political support The Solution Reverse the IPCC priority order and put increasing albedo first A brighter planet can avoid the climate danger zone. Cooling technologies such as Marine Cloud Brightening are quick, safe and cheap Fund large scale solar geoengineering research Governments must cooperate to implement direct cooling measures. <https://www.booktalk.org/post179885.html#p179885> 20 Sep 2022 Climate change shows that political psychology in mass movements is primarily mythological. Deniers and decarbonisers form opposing climate tribes with conflicting myths, bifurcating climate policy into two conflicting worldviews. Both denialists and decarbonists are equally guilty of reliance on what President John F. Kennedy called “the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought”. Arctic refreezing must become the top priority for climate policy, through international cooperation between governments to make directly cooling the planet, removing greenhouse gases and cutting emissions three co-equal priorities, as proposed by the <https://www.healthyplanetaction.org/> Healthy Planet Action Coalition. <https://www.counterpunch.org/> Counterpunch magazine published a recent article on this healthy planet vision of climate repair and restoration - <https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/16/monumental-plans-to-fix-the-planet/> Monumental Plans to Fix the Planet, showing how this approach to climate change is gaining an audience. Three actions – cooling, removing and reducing - can be equal in priority while having different time horizons. The problem with current policy is that emission reduction is marginal to climate stability and security, due to the urgency of the tipping point problem. The likelihood and impact of a dangerous climate phase shift due to Arctic tipping points is an extreme planetary security risk. Warming can only be mitigated if the world community institutes direct immediate measures to increase planetary albedo. This is a challenge to the prevailing political orthodoxy in climate policy, proposing an evolutionary shift in planetary management. Our planet has to reflect more sunlight as a primary public policy priority. As ecological stewards, global humanity must manage and guide and regulate the planetary atmosphere, ocean and temperature toward optimum conditions for the abundant flourishing of life. Making the three legs of the climate policy stool – cool, remove, reduce - equal in priority would involve a shift of funding from decarbonisation to new cooling technology. That would require new funding for climate policy earmarked to planetary brightening. Once brightening is accepted as a legitimate and central goal of the world climate conversation, the rapid potential, low cost, safety, and security and biodiversity benefits of measures to increase albedo will become obvious. <https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/yale-university-19620611> President Kennedy told Yale University in 1962 that “the great enemy of truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived and dishonest--but the myth--persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Too often we hold fast to the clichés of our forebears. We subject all facts to a prefabricated set of interpretations. We enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.” This description of the role of myth in politics speaks well to climate policy and science, as a political and philosophical insight into psychology, neuroscience and culture. Political psychology in mass movements is primarily mythological in character, due to our neural tribal instincts of loyalty and belonging. As already noted, climate policy is now bifurcated into two conflicting mythological tribes, the denialists and the decarbonists. President Kennedy's description of “the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought” shows the difficulty of scientific policy, the high inertia of politics and society when confronted with calls to change. Both sides of the climate debate are equally guilty of reliance on beliefs that conflict with evidence. There is an element of lying, but the majority of participants in climate discussion are sincere. However, sincerely held but empirically wrong ideas are a form of fantasy. Denial that climate change is real and dangerous is a fantasy, as is the false belief that emission reduction alone could prevent dangerous climate change. Good faith acceptance of sincerity enables scientific policy conversation based on logic and evidence. We can rise above the tyranny of myth, asking how we can transition from our current destructive planetary trajectory to find a path toward universal flourishing. An analogy to the climate policy situation comes from Eat Fat Get Thin, a nutrition book where author Dr Mark Hyman challenges the high carbohydrate diet paradigm of the <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_pyramid_%28nutrition%29#/media/File:USDA_Food_Pyramid.gif> USDA Food Pyramid of 1992 promoted strongly for decades by government dietary authorities. Carbohydrate as main staple food has been questioned over the last thirty years by the view that a diet high in fat and low in carbohydrate delivers better health outcomes, but this scientific discovery has confronted indifference and denial. Meanwhile, the Standard American Diet has produced the obesity epidemic, mainly from sugar, with impacts on cancer, dementia, sloth, heart disease and stroke. The bad health impacts of sugar have been widely ignored, as have the dangers of carbon dioxide and methane for global warming. Upton Sinclair explained in The Jungle, his study of the Chicago meatworks a century ago, that a man will not accept a fact when his income requires him to deny it. This syndrome applies to the food industry today. Climate policy contains an equivalent level of error. An equivalent paradigm shift is needed in climate as in nutrition. And yet climate policy change faces an equal or greater level of entrenched and intransigent opposition as nutrition – including from many who maintain they support good outcomes. It shows how people’s beliefs that their own views are true and rational can be wrong on a massive scale. We construct social myths, especially when conflict of interest influences the discussion. 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