Last sentence edit: *The question is whether there is any modeling of the balancing levels and potential time scales for the GHG processes that would give some idea of the needs and types of potentially necessary cooling and GHG draw down processes.*
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 5:18 PM Ron Baiman <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you for the question Michael. > > My understanding is that the global warming impact of the "bottom up" heat > from the ocean in the models is closely related to the level of offsetting > cooling from natural (and other) GHG draw down from the atmosphere and the > Oceans. In other words, rates of natural GHG uptake in the Ocean, and draw > down from the atmosphere and ocean through other means, are key elements in > the long term modeling that could presumably also be impacted by applying > "bottom up" and "opening up" cooling techniques. The question is whether > there is any modeling of the balancing levels and potential time scales for > the GHG processes that would give some idea of the needs and types of > potentially necessary cooling processes. > > Ron Baiman > > > Ron > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:48 PM Michael Hayes <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Ron, how does this relate to CDR? >> >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 2:10 PM Ron Baiman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> For more on the OTEC, WOXON, and CCT cooling methods see cooling paper >>> linked to here: https://www.healthyplanetaction.org/ >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 4:03 PM Ron Baiman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Colleagues, >>>> >>>> In lieu of the recent research suggesting that we may be in for a >>>> warming plateau of at least 50 years after net-zero due to the roughly >>>> offsetting effects of continued ocean uptake of GHG and release of latent >>>> heat accumulated in the ocean over many decades of warming (see: >>>> https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-will-global-warming-stop-as-soon-as-net-zero-emissions-are-reached/) >>>> does anyone know of modeling research on the potential need for "bottom up" >>>> direct cooling at the point where the "warming from below" from the ocean >>>> is greater than "the warming from above" from the sun? >>>> I'm thinking of techniques such as OTEC and WOHC (to harvest energy >>>> from and cool the oceans) as well as CCT (to "open up" the clouds so as to >>>> release more heat that has already been accumulated)? >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Ron Baiman >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/CAPhUB9DtB_VDo-F03vQP1tt7Xaq863AUfrZXgVk3H0YQrtHUHw%40mail.gmail.com.
