Lol Peter! But more seriously, an expert climate scientist colleague has encouraged me to point out some clear points that we both noticed. These are that (especially the George piece, but to some extent all of them and most general debates about "geoengineering") focus on SAI or SRM as though there are no other possibilities (see 19 possible direct climate cooling methods in cooling paper here: www.heathlyplanetaction.org) and moreover:
a) Neglect to employ a "risk - risk" framework - that is what is risk if we don't deploy direct climate cooling. Jim Hansen et al ( https://arxiv.org/abs/2212.04474 ) believe that existing legacy GHG's have put us in "in the pipeline" for 10 degrees C warming by 2100! b) Like almost all of the "geoengineering" debates that I've seen or heard, the articles assume a one-off duality of immediate global SAI program or not. That they don't include the possibility of carefully beginning to pilot, test, and SAI in the polar regions in the spring and evaluate and adjust (or cease) as more is learned about the impacts. There is only so much you can learn from "pure research" and we don't have a lot of time (or ability as much of the learning is inevitably learning by doing) to keep doing "pure research" on SAI and other promising direct climate cooling methods. BTW, the two papers without authors etc. in the attachments are: "This Climate Debate is a lot of Hot Air" is by Evan George and published in Legal Planet, Feb. 16, 2023 "Should There be a 'Non-Use' Agreement on Solar Geoengineering?" is by Duncan Mclaren and also published in Legal Planet, Feb. 23, 2023. Best, Ron Baiman On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 2:50 PM peter jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > PT Barnum is also credited with the saying "there's a sucker born every > minute". - Peter Jenkins. > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 2:23 PM Ron Baiman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> I thought that these pieces (shared by someone on one of the lists above) >> merited wider distribution. These are interesting and in my view further >> indications that the Making Sunsets “publicity stunt” is working well at >> stimulating awareness of the immense problem we are facing and how to >> address it per Circus owner PT Barnum’s adage that “there is no such thing >> as bad publicity”! >> Best, >> Ron >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Healthy Climate Alliance" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/healthy-climate-alliance/CAPhUB9B5myWZac%2B0xq47Qdkf0kOy-t0ZzMLePugg8Q5sBn_D_A%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/healthy-climate-alliance/CAPhUB9B5myWZac%2B0xq47Qdkf0kOy-t0ZzMLePugg8Q5sBn_D_A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geoengineering/CAPhUB9A3sep%3DX0vu5LTa3VK3Xs30%2B2MptQR6%2BTX9FckZAxLbdQ%40mail.gmail.com.
