Dear Colleagues, Segments 19:59 to 24:45 or so and perhaps a bit more in this excellent presentation (until it gets to the "fantasy economics" of postulating huge cuts and drawdowns in GHGs sufficient to stay below 1.5 c in the second part of the presentation - see c) in follow-up post) by Johan Rockstrom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmtk-tD_B-g (thank you Brian!) appear to directly address points made by David K in this segment (26:05 - 43:45) of the HPAC Q&A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCwvlPQWl8Q
Specifically: a) At 19:45: the 1.5 C threshold is scientifically based as crossing it puts us at great risk of crossing four tipping points: (Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets - (roughly 10 meters sea level rise), die-off of low-latitude coral reefs, and widespread abrupt permafrost thaw. This is the "results" summary of the paper cited: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn7950 We identify nine global “core” tipping elements which contribute substantially to Earth system functioning and seven regional “impact” tipping elements which contribute substantially to human welfare or have great value as unique features of the Earth system (see figure). Their estimated CTP thresholds have significant implications for climate policy: Current global warming of ~1.1°C above pre-industrial already lies within the lower end of five CTP uncertainty ranges. Six CTPs become likely (with a further four possible) within the Paris Agreement range of 1.5 to <2°C warming, including collapse of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets, die-off of low-latitude coral reefs, and widespread abrupt permafrost thaw. An additional CTP becomes likely and another three possible at the ~2.6°C of warming expected under current policies. b) At 24:45 or thereabouts: Arctic summer sea ice is a critical part of the global climate system. Below is the relevant summary from the paper cited: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105 Arctic Sea-Ice. As sea-ice melts, it exposes a much darker ocean surface, which absorbs more radiation–amplifying the warming. Energy-balance models suggest that this ice-albedo positive feedback can give rise to multiple stable states of sea-ice (and land snow) cover, including finite ice cap and ice-free states, with ice caps smaller than a certain size being unstable (13 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B13>). This small ice-cap instability is also found in some atmospheric general circulation models (AGCMs), but it can be largely eliminated by noise due to natural variability (14 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B14>). The instability is not expected to be relevant to Southern Ocean sea-ice because the Antarctic continent covers the region over which it would be expected to arise (15 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B15>). Different stable states for the flow rate through the narrow outlets that drain parts of the Arctic basin have also been found in a recent model (16 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B16>). For both summer and winter Arctic sea-ice, the area coverage is declining at present (with summer sea-ice declining more markedly; ref. 17 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B17>), and the ice has thinned significantly over a large area. Positive ice-albedo feedback dominates external forcing in causing the thinning and shrinkage since 1988, indicating strong nonlinearity and leading some to suggest that this system may already have passed a tipping point (18 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B18>), although others disagree (19 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B19>). In IPCC projections with ocean-atmosphere general circulation models (OAGCMs) (12 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B12>), half of the models become ice-free in September during this century (19 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B19>), at a polar temperature of −9°C (9°C above present) (20 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B20>). The transition has nonlinear steps in many of the models, but a common critical threshold has yet to be identified (19 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B19>). Thinning of the winter sea-ice increases the efficiency of formation of open water in summer, and abrupt retreat occurs when ocean heat transport to the Arctic increases rapidly (19 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B19>). Only two IPCC models (12 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B12>) exhibit a complete loss of annual sea-ice cover under extreme forcing (20 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B20>). One shows a nonlinear transition to a new stable state in <10 years when polar temperature rises above −5°C (13°C above present), whereas the other shows a more linear transition. We conclude that a critical threshold for summer Arctic sea-ice loss may exist, whereas a further threshold for year-round ice loss is more uncertain and less accessible this century. Given that the IPCC models significantly underestimate the observed rate of Arctic sea-ice decline (17 <https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0705414105#core-B17>), a summer ice-loss threshold, if not already passed, may be very close and a transition could occur well within this century. Best, Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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