Just to give my 2 cents. I think having both the URL's using the 
reflector makes sense as the entire nature of the preview is 
"convenience" it seems to fit. I do like the idea of exposing the "raw" 
WMS request as a learning tool. Perhaps on the preview page we could add 
some output that shows the actual wms request being made based on all 
the parameters set on the map preview.

-Justin

Mike Pumphrey wrote:
> I've been working with the KML reflector with all the Google Earth work 
> that we've been doing, and I think it's great.  It allows users to 
> request layers using a URL structure that is simple and only includes 
> what the user specifically cares about.  It's customizable, but it makes 
> sensible assumptions.  That's nifty.
> 
> So, it was very neat to learn (yes, you all know this, and I'm sure 
> someone has shown it to me at some point) that there is an equivalent 
> for WMS requests.
> 
> I think this should be more prominent.  Specifically, I would like to 
> see the WMS reflector available as part of the list of links we include 
> on our Map Preview page.  Before I file a JIRA, I wanted to know if 
> there was any specific reasoning why the KML reflector was included on 
> that page, but not the WMS reflector?
> 
> I talked to Andrea in the channel about this and since he mentioned that 
> he's likely to be slow to respond due to other commitments, I will quote 
> from our conversation below to provide his 2 eurocents.
> 
> ---
> 
> [12:56] <bmmpxf> aaime: Out of curiosity, is there a reason why we don't 
> have the Map Preview links use the WMS reflector?
> [12:56] <bmmpxf> ...considering we use the KML reflector for the KML 
> links...
> [12:56] <aaime> because we're supposed to teach people the standards
> [12:56] <aaime> (imho)
> [12:57] <aaime> why the KML links used the reflector in the first place, 
> eh, don't know
> [12:57] <aaime> I prefer the vanilla WMS request from a "this is WMS" 
> point of view
> [12:57] <aaime> thought I see how the reflector may be nicer
> [12:58] <aaime> as in easier
> [12:58] <aaime> but it's misleading as well
> [12:59] <bmmpxf> aaime: I can see it from both sides, but I think we 
> should either use the reflector for both or neither.  (I prefer both.)
> [12:59] <aaime> yeah, I'd prefer neither instead ;)
> [13:00] <bmmpxf> But it's tough, because we don't want to dumb down our 
> demo page...
> [13:00] <aaime> it really boils down to what audience you want to get
> [13:00] <aaime> the people looking for OGC stuff will be put off by the 
> reflector usage
> [13:00] <aaime> the people  looking for quick and dirty will prefer the 
> reflector instead...
> [13:02] <bmmpxf> But if we have this nifty, easy-to-use feature, perhaps 
> we should push it a bit more?
> [13:02] <bmmpxf> As in, why not have both links on the demo page?
> [13:02] <aaime> because we have too many links already ;)
> [13:02] <aaime> we need more demo pages
> [13:02] <aaime> one that shows off the reflectors would be great
> [13:03] <aaime> as would be one that allows you to easily build a WFS 
> GetFeature request
> [13:05] <bmmpxf> aaime: Yeah, I guess we should add that to the list.  :)
> [13:06] <aaime> or else we could have a demo page showing how to build a 
> wms GetMap
> [13:06] <aaime> and use the reflectors in the preview
> [13:10] <bmmpxf> aaime: These are good ideas.  Shall we start a thread 
> on the users or devel list?  I'd like to solicit some feedback from 
> others as well...
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike Pumphrey
> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
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