There was some discussion on this topic in the PMC meeting. Salient points:
- Should we rename the beta the RC (Basically, the fork/RC would now be
1 month before the .0 release and there wouldn't be a beta release anymore).
- The most useful naming scheme for would be whatever people are more
likely to test
- Should we still have an RC(2) two weeks before the .0?
- Only if there are enough bugfixes to warrant it?
Anyone have further opinions on these?
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Torben Barsballe <
tbarsba...@boundlessgeo.com> wrote:
> PR's for the associated doc changes here:
>
> - https://github.com/geotools/geotools/pull/1811
> - https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/pull/2763
>
> We also have a release process diagram which includes the freeze. While
> not critical, that could be updated - does anyone have the source files for
> it?
>
> Torben
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Torben Barsballe <
> tbarsba...@boundlessgeo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We could also cut the beta just to confirm master is releasable, and not
>>> branch. Make the first release candidate the branch to achieve the same
>>> effect.
>>>
>>> It has the advantage of less moving parts, but we do not get a code
>>> freeze to focus on bugs. But as you point out that is not happening so
>>> much.
>>>
>>
>> Unless I am misunderstanding you, this is what we do currently - branch
>> on the RC. What are you actually suggesting here?
>>
>> Torben
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 2:45 AM Ian Turton <ijtur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree we hardly ever see any feedback before the .0 release. Which is
>>>> a shame but nothing we do seems to make a difference to customers.
>>>>
>>>> So +1 for me
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> On 16 February 2018 at 09:32, Nuno Oliveira <
>>>> nuno.olive...@geo-solutions.it> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any voting power, just want to express my +1 towards that
>>>>> change ... and indeed I don't see the advantage of the RC release.
>>>>> If users don't provide feedback, bug fix doesn't happen ... what are
>>>>> the advantages of having the RC release ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/16/2018 03:18 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1. It does seem that we are not getting much benefit from waiting
>>>>>> until RC to branch, and any fix would be applied to master and the new
>>>>>> stable before the .0 release. We could drop the RC altogether. The
>>>>>> current
>>>>>> procedure incurs not only a delay but also the work of an extra release
>>>>>> (the RC).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Ben.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/02/18 22:58, Andrea Aime wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi (apologies for the cross post),
>>>>>>> I would like to hear opinions on changing the release procedures
>>>>>>> slightly,
>>>>>>> and cutting the stable
>>>>>>> branch directly on the beta release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason for not doing the cut on beta but on RC originally was to
>>>>>>> push
>>>>>>> devs to concentrate
>>>>>>> on bug fixing.
>>>>>>> However, since then we have shortened the beta life to just two
>>>>>>> weeks, we
>>>>>>> are not getting significant
>>>>>>> feedback from users (which typically starts flowing in on .0 or even
>>>>>>> .1
>>>>>>> releases), and the bug fixing activity
>>>>>>> is rather small (I try to do it anyways, but find myself fixing old
>>>>>>> bugs,
>>>>>>> not new ones).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've also noticed that I routinely created short lived forks of
>>>>>>> master to
>>>>>>> keep on working on my daily job.
>>>>>>> Wondering, am I the only one?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If not, or if others don't mind anyways, wouldn't it be better to
>>>>>>> just cut
>>>>>>> the stable branch on beta instead?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>>>
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