My Take:
- rename Beta to RC
- rather than having an RC2 adding one more release to the existing train
maybe with a shorter timeline if/as needed
The rationale is giving users something testable that does not carry the
Beta or RC tag as soon as possible and account for a initial shorter
release cycle to cover pressing bugs and problems.
Regards,
Simone Giannecchini
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On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Torben Barsballe <
tbarsba...@boundlessgeo.com> wrote:
> There was some discussion on this topic in the PMC meeting. Salient points:
>
> - Should we rename the beta the RC (Basically, the fork/RC would now
> be 1 month before the .0 release and there wouldn't be a beta release
> anymore).
> - The most useful naming scheme for would be whatever people are
> more likely to test
> - Should we still have an RC(2) two weeks before the .0?
> - Only if there are enough bugfixes to warrant it?
>
> Anyone have further opinions on these?
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Torben Barsballe <
> tbarsba...@boundlessgeo.com> wrote:
>
>> PR's for the associated doc changes here:
>>
>> - https://github.com/geotools/geotools/pull/1811
>> - https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/pull/2763
>>
>> We also have a release process diagram which includes the freeze. While
>> not critical, that could be updated - does anyone have the source files for
>> it?
>>
>> Torben
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Torben Barsballe <
>> tbarsba...@boundlessgeo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We could also cut the beta just to confirm master is releasable, and
>>>> not branch. Make the first release candidate the branch to achieve the same
>>>> effect.
>>>>
>>>> It has the advantage of less moving parts, but we do not get a code
>>>> freeze to focus on bugs. But as you point out that is not happening so
>>>> much.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Unless I am misunderstanding you, this is what we do currently - branch
>>> on the RC. What are you actually suggesting here?
>>>
>>> Torben
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 2:45 AM Ian Turton <ijtur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree we hardly ever see any feedback before the .0 release. Which
>>>>> is a shame but nothing we do seems to make a difference to customers.
>>>>>
>>>>> So +1 for me
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 February 2018 at 09:32, Nuno Oliveira <
>>>>> nuno.olive...@geo-solutions.it> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have any voting power, just want to express my +1 towards
>>>>>> that change ... and indeed I don't see the advantage of the RC release.
>>>>>> If users don't provide feedback, bug fix doesn't happen ... what are
>>>>>> the advantages of having the RC release ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/16/2018 03:18 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1. It does seem that we are not getting much benefit from waiting
>>>>>>> until RC to branch, and any fix would be applied to master and the new
>>>>>>> stable before the .0 release. We could drop the RC altogether. The
>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>> procedure incurs not only a delay but also the work of an extra release
>>>>>>> (the RC).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Ben.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14/02/18 22:58, Andrea Aime wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi (apologies for the cross post),
>>>>>>>> I would like to hear opinions on changing the release procedures
>>>>>>>> slightly,
>>>>>>>> and cutting the stable
>>>>>>>> branch directly on the beta release.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The reason for not doing the cut on beta but on RC originally was
>>>>>>>> to push
>>>>>>>> devs to concentrate
>>>>>>>> on bug fixing.
>>>>>>>> However, since then we have shortened the beta life to just two
>>>>>>>> weeks, we
>>>>>>>> are not getting significant
>>>>>>>> feedback from users (which typically starts flowing in on .0 or
>>>>>>>> even .1
>>>>>>>> releases), and the bug fixing activity
>>>>>>>> is rather small (I try to do it anyways, but find myself fixing old
>>>>>>>> bugs,
>>>>>>>> not new ones).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also noticed that I routinely created short lived forks of
>>>>>>>> master to
>>>>>>>> keep on working on my daily job.
>>>>>>>> Wondering, am I the only one?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If not, or if others don't mind anyways, wouldn't it be better to
>>>>>>>> just cut
>>>>>>>> the stable branch on beta instead?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
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