You have a good point about predictability. At the same time, it's shocking
to be able to edit a file, have it working fine for
a while, and then find out it reverted back to a previous state
days/weeks/months later, when a restart happens.

The other surprising bit is the change of behavior, after so many years
being able to just edit these files without surprises.

Cheers
Andrea

On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 9:20 PM Alexandre Gacon <alexandre.ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think I understand the point of Jody. If the definition of the level of
> logging stays the same, you know you can have a given information by asking
> a customer or a user to set the logging to level YYY.
>
> If the definition has been changed, you won't have the information to help
> him or her.
>
> To me it should be possible to define several custom logging levels. For
> the default one, the only thing that should be allowed to be changed should
> be the location of the file or a rolling policy but not the content of the
> log.
>
> Alexandre
>
> Le ven. 7 oct. 2022 à 19:58, Ian Turton <ijtur...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Overwriting an existing file seems wrong to me. I for one would be
>> surprised if it happened to me.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Oct 2022, 18:20 Andrea Aime, <andrea.a...@geosolutionsgroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm bringing a discussion started in
>>> https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-10700 here on list,
>>> because I believe it needs a wider audience.
>>>
>>> In summary, it's no longer possible to customize the logging profiles
>>> that ship with GeoServer (e..g, PRODUCTION_LOGGING.xml, as found in a
>>> vanilla GeoServer installation) because GeoServer would overwrite them on
>>> startup with the classpath version.
>>>
>>> The "intended" way would be to create a customized profile,
>>> "MY_PRODUCTION_LOGGING", that would sit alongside the one provided by
>>> GeoServer.
>>>
>>> Jody says it's a feature... I see it as surprising, and verbose
>>> configuration wise (why should one keep logging profiles they don't care to
>>> use as-is, and put another alongside with the same intended purpose?).
>>>
>>> Can we please restore the old behavior? If the admin customizes a
>>> built-in profile in XML form, it just stays that way. GeoServer should fill
>>> back in the logging profiles only if they have been deleted...
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Andrea
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