Regardless of intent or nominal best-practice, it seems like this is a
pretty significant regression for some users of GeoServer. As such, I am in
favor of reverting the change.

I could see retaining the functionality to overwrite these files if they
change as an optional configuration, but not as the default.

Cheers,
Torben


On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 2:00 AM Nuno Oliveira <
nuno.olive...@geosolutionsgroup.com> wrote:

> Good morning,
> having the logging configuration overridden after an edition, in practice
> not being able to customize the default login profiles, was both a puzzling
> and an unpleasant surprise for me.
>
> Although I understand the rationale behind this change, creating
> predictability, this affects a functional behavior that's been there for
> years.
> Such a significant change should have been highlighted and voted through
> the PSC, hence +1 in favor of reverting this change.
>
> I will vote -1 on this change, if I edit a configuration in GeoServer
> (through the UI or in the data directory when no UI is available) I don't
> want the system to automatically and silently override it unless it is
> strictly necessary, for example during a migration where this is
> inevitable.
> That say, I have nothing against adding an option (checkbox) to the global
> info that would block the customization of the default logging profiles,
> but this is something that would need to be explicitly activated by the
> administrator.
>
> Kind regards,
> Nuno Oliveira
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 8:32 AM Andrea Aime <
> andrea.a...@geosolutionsgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 11:12 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Andrea
>>>
>>> I am really not attached to either behaviour, if you would like to
>>> change it so the built-in profiles are not overwritten like before that is
>>> fine.
>>>
>>
>> Ok, I'll call this progress.
>>
>> Yet, as stated before, we can discuss, but deciding on this kind of
>> behavioral changes is in the hands of the PSC, no single developer should
>> move ahead on their own.
>> So I would invite Alessio, Jukka, Kevin, Nuno, Simone and Torben to also
>> share their opinion on the matter (me, Jody and Ian have spoken already).
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
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