I think I can summarize Jody’s reference to Paul’s arguments as; cloud
providers benefitting from but not reinvesting in FOSS; being an example of The
Tragedy of the Commons.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
-Thayer
On Saturday, October 1, 2022, 10:41:35 AM EDT, Jody Garnett
<jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote:
You should check out Paul Ramsey’s presentation on cloud providers offering
PostgreSQL database service.
I think it would answer your question about sustainability.
Let me try and find a link:-
http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2019/05/foss4g-keynote-2019.html-
http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2019/07/aws-aurora.html
Really open source is a long game, projects are only sustainable when folks
take part. Participation is even more important than money. Or rather money is
only important if it can be used to buy participation. —Jody
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 12:07 AM Ron Lindhoudt <rlindho...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Jody,
Thanks for your response. You and other contributors have every reason to be
proud of your open source software.
I am curious why the amazon set up of your previous employer was not
sustainable if it was popular.
Microsoft Azure has a PostgreSQL service thats has a lot of benefits for us. We
don´t have to install it on a VM anymore, backup, restore, stability,
performance, security issues etc. etc. are all out of our hands. The price is
oke in my view.
If they would have a similar solution for Geoserver that would be great.
Ron
On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 10:38:34 CEST, Jody Garnett
<jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ron:
Amazon asked that during our foss4g presentation and it kind of pissed me off.
As a project we make software and give it away for free (asking that our
community help test release candidates twice a year and take part in the user
list to help make the project successful). Amazon makes a lot of money off
their platform and are perfectly capable of creating and packaging the
application for their customers (and does not need hand-outs of our time).
I think I said something more polite: "as a community we make the software and
it is up to our service providers to consider additional distribution
opportunities". I know my previous employer set up an amazon thing and while it
was popular - it was not sustainable. For the amount of work it did not bring
in new community members or opportunities for the service provider doing the
work.
To be clear we distribute geoserver as free software so that everyone can enjoy
it, including cloud providers. It is a challenge for all the cloud providers to
figure out how to engage free software and open source software in a
sustainable manner. --Jody Garnett
On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 04:50, Ron Lindhoudt <rlindho...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It would be nice if Geoserver could be seen as a "service" provided by big
known cloud providers like Microsoft and Amazon that support seamless
scalability.Like they do with open source database PostgreSQL.
On Monday, 26 September 2022 at 09:49:26 CEST, Jody Garnett
<jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote:
Peshawa:
GeoServer is just an application; so you can choose any cloud hosting option
and install and run the application yourself. Of course if you wish an
organization to do this for you there are some options (including my employer)
on the GeoServer commercial support page: https://geoserver.org/support/
We have tagged the service providers on that page with their area of
demonstrated experience. You can find a few more listed on the osgeo website
here https://www.osgeo.org/service-providers/?p=geoserver
--Jody Garnett
On Sat, 24 Sept 2022 at 15:20, Peshawa Salih <peshawabakht...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am sending this email regarding my webmap project. I have used Geoserver,
GeoJSON, and OpenLayers to create my webmap. In the final stages, I am seeking
a web or cloud hosting that accepts Geoserver.
I am kindly asking for your support regarding my case and wondering if
Geoserver has cloud hosting. Does QGIS Cloud server accept Geoserver? and what
are your recommendations?
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Faithfully yours,--
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Geomatics Engineer & Cartographer |
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| A Sulaymaniyah, 172 Chnarok
| M +964-770-608-9393 || +36-70-270-8975 |
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