The remainder of the meeting was interesting; but I am not sure if you 
caught it - everyone was exactly right.

 From the standpoint of Refractions we often wish GeoTools was more self 
sustaining; none of the other open source projects we work with have 
such an overhead for us. Now in each case there is usually a dedicated 
project leader; and nothing like IRC meetings (usually an email thread 
is enough to formally work out most problems). And the vast body of code 
is stable and non changing ...

Where do I see this heading for us?

Well the system we have set up with module maintainers (and modules for 
that matter) is very suited to an RnD project; witness the array of 
active RnD modules going on even now :-) As code becomes stable (and 
fall into maintenance mode) we need to treat things more like a library 
(and less like a project). We can see this in many areas already; the 
GeoServer developers (and in a smaller way the uDig developers) have 
been maintaining the library.

Right now we have a fair bit of friction from all sides - let me sum up.
- Thanks to the GeoServer crew for taking on maintenance for so many 
years (I was sad uDig could not keep up)
- Everyone has at different times pushed the RnD envelope; the amount of 
technical debt we are carrying is making it not cost effective for 
Geomatys to take on more RnD.
- It is hard to raise money / time for maintenance work - we need to 
recognize this and plan accordingly
- PMC responsibility is planning ... not maintenance and bug fixes.

Martin proposed one way forward today; I will review and comment when I 
am a bit more awake. Personally I am not going to make any decisions 
about this until our graduation requirements are met.

Cheers,
Jody

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