Hi Andrea,
thanks for the feedback, please see my answers bellow:

On 03/20/2018 10:21 AM, Andrea Aime wrote:
Hi Nuno,
last time a new type of filter was in this commit:

https://github.com/geotools/geotools/commit/47e9259d74482b92244b4dd301363b434e382baf

Thankfully now there are default methods, allowing for quite a bit less painful 
extension.

Thanks, yes default methods help indeed.

Overall I see where this need comes from and agree with it, a few notes/questions off the top of my head:

  * Can you share how you intend to implement NativeFilter? Is it an interface 
with store specific
    implementations, or does it have a single one? Which stores will receive a 
sample
    implementation of the concept?


My idea is to create an interface (this will help with filter visitors):

   public interface NativeFilter extends Filter {

        Expression getNative();
   }

 and then provide a default implementation for it, this default implementation should be enough for most use cases.

The JDBC data store will be the first one receiving support for it.

  * Make sure the functionality is open for programmers but not from the web 
(e.g., one cannot
    setup a XML or CQL filter using it


Yes this is an important point indeed, no XML binds or CQL support will be implemented. The Filter to CQL visitor will throw an exception.

  * Properly document the intended usage of it including notion of pre/post 
filter splitting,
    e.g., if a NativeFilter is supported, but it's OR-ed with another bit using 
an unsupported
    filter function, it will end in the post, in memory evaluation, and will 
blow up.This is
    unavoidable, but should not be a surprise for users.


Yep.

Cheers
Andrea





On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:07 PM, Nuno Oliveira <nuno.olive...@geo-solutions.it <mailto:nuno.olive...@geo-solutions.it>> wrote:

    Hi all,

    Recently I have been dealing with some use cases that require the ability 
to inject some
    native filters,
    specific for each feature type and non static over time, to the final 
native query build by
    GeoTools and
    send to the data store.

    For example, the content of a feature type is partially controlled by an 
external service who
    provides a non
    static native query (the request changes over time) that filters the 
content that should be show.

    Another use case is a complex authorization rules system where the 
authorization rules are SQL
    expressions that need to be append to the final SQL WHERE clause build by 
GeoTools, the system
    provides SQL expressions for different databases (Oracle, PostgreSQL, 
MySQL, etc ...).

    Most of the native filters of this use cases are quite complex and can't be 
translated to OGC
    filters.

    Since we have a pattern here that can be applied to several use cases and 
data stores I have
    think about
    an approach that would allow extensions, external code, etc ... to inject 
the necessary native
    filter(s)
    and allow data stores implementations to handle those native filters in an 
harmonized way.

    I have come up with the idea of a new filter named /NativeFilter/:

      * this filter will NOT be directly usable by the final users, for example 
in WFS requests

      * if any code try to evaluate it in memory an exception will be throw

      * it will not break any API and data stores will be free to implement is 
support has needed

      * it will have a method getNative() that will return a String containing 
the native filter

    A new default method would need to be added to the /FilterVisitor/ 
interface and a default
    implementation would need to be added to /AsbtractFilterVisitor and 
DuplicatingFilterVisitor /
    classes (like for any other filter).

    The data store who wants to supports this filter will need to extends it 
custom visitor, for
    example,
    for relational databases we only need to add a new visit method to 
/FilterToSQL/ visitor.

    This gives the necessary flexibility for third party code (codes that use 
GeoTools) to inject
    native
    filters without any specific extension points or cumbersome handling. It is 
also worth notice
    unless
    some code is using native filters this will have no impact on other usages.

    Any thoughts on this ? Objections ?

    King regards,

    Nuno Oliveira

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