Hi Jody,

No sure I understand your comment:

1. you mean there is already something similar that can be done with query 
hints ?
2. or you mean we could use a query hint for this ?

That say, one my first approaches was to take advantage of query hints but I step on to many limitations, just to /name/// a few:

 * query hints at best allows us to say, please happen this to the final query 
that will be send to
   the data store, but doesn't allow us to build a filter the way we need it 
(OR, AND, nested, etc ...)

 * the native filter provides a more harmonized approach, the query hint would 
have to be managed
   explicitly in every part of the code where the final query that will be send 
to the data store
   is created, this would quickly become a nightmare (note this is not specific 
to JDBC data store)

 * having a filter allows us to take advantage of all the existing wiring and 
processing that
   involves filters visitors, e.g. capabilities support, filters splitter, etc 
...

Another thing that is worth mentioning, is that for most of the use cases I can think of being able to use a filter is more /compatible/ for the invokers than setting up a query hint.

Kind regards,

Nuno Oliveira

On 03/21/2018 01:59 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
do we not have query hints for this purpose?
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:07 PM Nuno Oliveira <nuno.olive...@geo-solutions.it <mailto:nuno.olive...@geo-solutions.it>> wrote:

    Hi Andrea,
    thanks for the feedback, please see my answers bellow:


    On 03/20/2018 10:21 AM, Andrea Aime wrote:
    Hi Nuno,
    last time a new type of filter was in this commit:

    
https://github.com/geotools/geotools/commit/47e9259d74482b92244b4dd301363b434e382baf

    Thankfully now there are default methods, allowing for quite a bit less 
painful extension.

    Thanks, yes default methods help indeed.


    Overall I see where this need comes from and agree with it, a few 
notes/questions off the top
    of my head:

      * Can you share how you intend to implement NativeFilter? Is it an 
interface with store
        specific implementations, or does it have a single one? Which stores 
will receive a
        sample implementation of the concept?


    My idea is to create an interface (this will help with filter visitors):

        public interface NativeFilter extends Filter {

            Expression getNative();
        }

     and then provide a default implementation for it, this default 
implementation should be
    enough for most use cases.

    The JDBC data store will be the first one receiving support for it.


      * Make sure the functionality is open for programmers but not from the 
web (e.g., one
        cannot setup a XML or CQL filter using it


    Yes this is an important point indeed, no XML binds or CQL support will be 
implemented. The
    Filter to CQL visitor will throw an exception.


      * Properly document the intended usage of it including notion of pre/post 
filter splitting,
        e.g., if a NativeFilter is supported, but it's OR-ed with another bit 
using an
        unsupported filter function, it will end in the post, in memory 
evaluation, and will blow
        up.This is unavoidable, but should not be a surprise for users.


    Yep.


    Cheers
    Andrea





    On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:07 PM, Nuno Oliveira 
<nuno.olive...@geo-solutions.it
    <mailto:nuno.olive...@geo-solutions.it>> wrote:

        Hi all,

        Recently I have been dealing with some use cases that require the 
ability to inject some
        native filters,
        specific for each feature type and non static over time, to the final 
native query build
        by GeoTools and
        send to the data store.

        For example, the content of a feature type is partially controlled by 
an external service
        who provides a non
        static native query (the request changes over time) that filters the 
content that should
        be show.

        Another use case is a complex authorization rules system where the 
authorization rules
        are SQL
        expressions that need to be append to the final SQL WHERE clause build 
by GeoTools, the
        system
        provides SQL expressions for different databases (Oracle, PostgreSQL, 
MySQL, etc ...).

        Most of the native filters of this use cases are quite complex and 
can't be translated to
        OGC filters.

        Since we have a pattern here that can be applied to several use cases 
and data stores I
        have think about
        an approach that would allow extensions, external code, etc ... to 
inject the necessary
        native filter(s)
        and allow data stores implementations to handle those native filters in 
an harmonized way.

        I have come up with the idea of a new filter named /NativeFilter/:

          * this filter will NOT be directly usable by the final users, for 
example in WFS requests

          * if any code try to evaluate it in memory an exception will be throw

          * it will not break any API and data stores will be free to implement 
is support has needed

          * it will have a method getNative() that will return a String 
containing the native filter

        A new default method would need to be added to the /FilterVisitor/ 
interface and a default
        implementation would need to be added to /AsbtractFilterVisitor and
        DuplicatingFilterVisitor /
        classes (like for any other filter).

        The data store who wants to supports this filter will need to extends 
it custom visitor,
        for example,
        for relational databases we only need to add a new visit method to 
/FilterToSQL/ visitor.

        This gives the necessary flexibility for third party code (codes that 
use GeoTools) to
        inject native
        filters without any specific extension points or cumbersome handling. 
It is also worth
        notice unless
        some code is using native filters this will have no impact on other 
usages.

        Any thoughts on this ? Objections ?

        King regards,

        Nuno Oliveira

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