On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:22:42AM +0200, Stefan Keller wrote:
> Thanks, Christopher, for the explanations. I'm fascinated by the legally
> relevant nuances but I wonder how far we really want to go into these gory
> details being rather technicians than lawers?

These details don't seem 'gory' to me -- they're relevant if you intend
to do anything which conforms to the license, no? The reason I'm
interested in these things is because I've dealt with them for things
that I'm creating with CC-By-SA data.

> Are these questions solved for OSM worldwide when ODBL is out? 

Certainly that's the intention -- the way the ODBL is written in such a
way that it can be used and enforced in the widest community possible,
so that per-country/jurisdiction licenses are not neccesary, no? (Though
I feel like my telling this to you is preaching to the choir; I feel
like I regularly see you on the osm-legal-discuss list, so I don't know
that I'm telling you anything new.)

> Or wouldn't there be still country specific viral/GPL-alike versions
> left to be issued?  

I'm not sure why this would be the case.

> At the bottom line, I think, having a PD/BSD-like license for open
> geodata (like OSM should hopefully be)

See 
  http://geowanking.org/pipermail/geowanking_geowanking.org/2009-May/017934.html
on why I think that OSM under not-SA has a non-zero chance of killing OSM.   

> , would give us more time to
> innovate than to have (nice) discussions without any legally relevant
> conclusion.

I don't know about you, but I'm not in a position where I can innovate
by ignoring the legal discussions. The ODBL is a step forward, while
still protecting the large body of work that OSM has been able to build
from being co-opted by other organizations.  

(I'll add that until 12-18 months ago, I was entirely in favor of a
public-domain style data setup, but I no longer feel that way.) 

Best Regards,
-- 
Christopher Schmidt
MetaCarta

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