One of my favorite ideas for a job quiz was what I read in a blog
somewhere: give any candidate that makes an inquiry an ssh login and
have them follow the programming instructions they find in a README
file.  According to the blog, it was amazing how few people applying
for a "unix programmer" job could figure out how to login with ssh...

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Michael Weisman<[email protected]> wrote:
> My employer (Safe Software) grills people during job interviews with
> quite difficult technical questions in an attempt to weed people out.
> It seems to work quite well.
>
> I was actually impressed with the quiz and have been thinking about
> potential solutions to them in my head (in Python, sh and Objective-C
> for #1) just for fun!
>
> Michael
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Landon Blake <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I believe, if properly constructed and administered, the tests could be a
>> great way to weed out the candidate that knows how to shoot a good line of
>> bull, but who can’t really deliver the goods.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, depending on your business, you might only be interested in the
>> employee that can shoot a good line of bull.
>>
>>
>>
>> Landon
>>
>> Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
>>
>> Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian White
>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:34 AM
>> To: '[email protected]'
>> Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Urban Mapping seeking Data Wrangler
>>
>>
>>
>> Fully agreed and no criticism detected!
>>
>> I think that pre-screening tests are probably less common in the traditional
>> geosphere--enterprise/government GIS tends to move at a different pace and
>> might shy on the more traditional side. For web-based geo it's mainstream.
>> If/when 'traditional' GIS gets whacked by the web this might change, but
>> otherwise momentum is a very hard thing to change
>>
>> Ian White :: Urban Mapping Inc
>> 690 Fifth Street Suite 200 :: San Francisco CA 94107
>> T.415.946.8170 :: F.866.385.8266 :: urbanmapping.com/blog
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Landon Blake <[email protected]>
>> To: Ian White; [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu Sep 10 10:21:20 2009
>> Subject: RE: [Geowanking] Urban Mapping seeking Data Wrangler
>>
>> I didn’t mean to come off as critical. I was just musing.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know Ian runs a company that does work I consider cutting edge and very
>> interesting. We have discussed similar types of tests for practical
>> knowledge for prospective employees at my own work place. We haven’t
>> implemented them, but we have talked about them.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wonder how typical this type of test is becoming in the geospatial job
>> market. Me thinks it wouldn’t have been extremely common two or three years
>> ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> Landon
>>
>> Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
>>
>> Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian White
>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:14 AM
>> To: '[email protected]'
>> Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Urban Mapping seeking Data Wrangler
>>
>>
>>
>> It's a function of the job market--some candidates will find such tests
>> arrogant and dismiss those employers out of hand while others find them
>> attractive ("oh, this company 'gets' it") . All employers want to identify
>> and cultivate talent that likes a challenge. Also, nobody wants to waste
>> time on a bad employee/employer match. I've heard some ad agencies make
>> candidates develop an entire campaign in preparation for a job interview,
>> something that clearly takes a significant of time.
>>
>>
>> Ian White :: Urban Mapping Inc
>> 690 Fifth Street Suite 200 :: San Francisco CA 94107
>> T.415.946.8170 :: F.866.385.8266 :: urbanmapping.com/blog
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu Sep 10 09:46:35 2009
>> Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Urban Mapping seeking Data Wrangler
>>
>> Reminds me of a job I applied for at a cabinet shop quite a few years ago.
>> They made me go to the back and measure pieces of wood. It was a good thing
>> my dad taught me how to use a tape measure. (I didn’t get the job at the
>> cabinet shop. It was a good thing Safeway was hiring at the same time.)
>>
>>
>>
>> I wonder if this type of practical testing is more common now that the job
>> market is in the employer’s favor. It makes me glad I still have a job. :]
>>
>>
>>
>> Landon
>>
>> Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
>>
>> Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian White
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 6:27 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Geowanking] Urban Mapping seeking Data Wrangler
>>
>>
>>
>> Apologies for the crass commercial intent behind this note, but the only
>> place worth fishing is where the fish are…
>>
>>
>>
>> Despite challenging economic times, we’re on the hunt for somebody new. If
>> this sounds like you, please consider yourself a candidate! Urban Mapping is
>> looking for a recent CS/EECS/CogSci/SymSys graduate with 1-2 years
>> professional experience, solid academic background and experience working
>> with large-scale datasets, databases, geodata and maps. You understand good
>> software design, can build robust tools and know how get things done with
>> magic on the UNIX command line or scripts. You are confident in your skills
>> and potential, know when to RTFM, and aren’t afraid to ask questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Urban Mapping is an established startup (read: we have paying customers) in
>> San Francisco’s SOMA neighborhood.  Our innovative work with geospatial data
>> and technology is always presenting new challenges. Currently, we need help
>> to create and manage a massive datastore of geo- and related data.  You will
>> work in engineering as the de facto Data Wrangler but enjoy the
>> entrepreneurial challenge and will find many areas to shine and learn.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Essential knowledge:
>>
>> - Linux, shell scripting
>>
>> - Intermediate to advanced SQL
>>
>> - Very confident in one of: Python, Ruby, C, Perl, Java
>>
>> - Exposure to GIS and geospatial tools
>>
>> - Attention to detail
>>
>>
>>
>> The ideal candidate will:
>>
>> - Have FOSSG experience: PostgreSQL/PostGIS, GeoDjango, OSM
>>
>> - Know rendering and tiling tools (TileCache, Mapnik)
>>
>> - Understand cartography, projections, etc.
>>
>> - Server-side web development experience
>>
>> - Python/Django guru
>>
>> - WhereCamper!
>>
>>
>>
>> If this sounds of interest, please visit our blog to learn a bit more about
>> us: urbanmapping.com/blog. This is a full time position with salary, health
>> insurance, other benefits (Fri lunch on the company, occasional
>> outings/retreats) and equity compensation. To apply, send your solutions the
>> following two problems, resume and a cover letter to
>> [email protected].  Credit given for effort, and incomplete
>> submissions will be ignored.
>>
>>
>>
>> Problem #1 – Show code to extract a list of unique IPs/apikey pairs from a
>> log with following format:
>>
>>
>>
>> napi.urbanmapping.com 208.13.194.18 - - [09/Sep/2009:10:43:11 -0700] "GET
>> /neighborhoods/rest/getNeighborhoodsByLatLng?lat=43.6366595&lng=-79.4250212&format=xml&apikey=8k3pent5qzztwn
>> HTTP/1.0" 200 1105 "-" "Drupal (+http://drupal.org/)" "Basic"
>> getNeighborhoodsByLatLng 1
>>
>>
>>
>> tapi.urbanmapping.com 83.40.19.38 - - [09/Sep/2009:10:44:44 -0700] "GET
>> /find/stations/near_point.json?lat=40.756945&lng=-73.978243&searchrange=1000&transit_system_id=&apikey=a2de289b1a93a8541f998
>> HTTP/1.0" 200 2434 "-"
>> "Pingdom.com_bot_version_1.4_(http://www.pingdom.com/)" "Proximity"
>> prox_stations_near_point 1
>>
>> …
>>
>>
>>
>> Problem #2 – You have a dataset of geographic boundaries (Census Blocks)
>> which aggregate demographic statistics.  You want to estimate the same
>> statistics for an arbitrary polygonal region.  Describe a process for
>> calculating these stats and discuss any problems with your solution.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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