2012/4/10 Emilie Laffray <[email protected]>: > Hello, > > I agree 100% here. > The problem here is that those questions are on the semantic level. I think > that before we start thinking about file format we should think about > organizing them in a meaningful fashion in the first place. It is where most > of the start ups are working on: how to organize the data in a meaningful > fashion and make use it. This is where the extra value is currently. Once we > have agreed on what needs to be shared, only then file formats will actually > matter (for that topic of course). > I think this is a place where the "ever so successful semantic web" might be > successful. > > Emilie Laffray
Agreed. Though I wonder why only few emphasize that there is a gap between data (format/encoding) and information. It's called database schema or domain model! That's why I would put a system catalog table into something like SQLite which encodes any higher level data definition language as key/values. By chance, just recently another "big" worldwide dataset was published: GADM: http://www.gadm.org/. And guess which formats they offer for download? I cite "... shapefile, ESRI geodatabase, RData, and Google Earth kmz"... I'd say: that's just another missed chance to semantic interoperability because of the lack of a common "Shapefile of the future" (accompanied with some well known data definition). Yours, S. > On 9 April 2012 23:24, Brian Russo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Knowledge > Information > Data. >> >> At the knowledge and problem solving level you don't want to bother >> with data format issues (correctly so IMO), however that doesn't mean >> they don't matter. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 9, 2012, at 11:59, Steve Coast <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Nobody give a flying monkey about the format jerking. >> > >> > It's 2012 and we're waffling about formats. How about problems which I >> > actually care about or might generate actual revenue? >> > >> > * What is the bar within 30 minutes journey from me with a decent IPA, a >> > good atmosphere and free parking? >> > >> > We can't do that. >> > >> > * Which of my neighbors will lend me their circular saw for $10 so I >> > don't have to buy one for $300? >> > >> > We can't do that. >> > >> > * Where should I live so that my kids have a decent school, the taxes >> > are good, the commute isn't too bad and the crime rates are low? >> > >> > We can kind-sorta do that. Maybe. >> > >> > We live in a world where we need a GIS professional to help us with the >> > most basic of questions. If I may, we have a Small Data problem; >> > http://stevecoast.com/2012/04/10/small-data/ not any format problems. >> > >> > Steve >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Geowanking mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Geowanking mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Geowanking mailing list > [email protected] > http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org > _______________________________________________ Geowanking mailing list [email protected] http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org
