Don't you love when you start to see the connections for everything.

Even with tiling though, the creation of the tiles will go much faster
with a well thought out vector data layer.

As I said before, I am thouroughly revved up about both ideas and
think they both go hand in hand towards democratizing the entire
process of getting at the data, but they are still different.



On 1/26/06, Allan Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good point. Tiling schemes are more or less orthogonal to data set
> collection and maintenance. (I admit that I was focusing on the
> tiling parts of the thread and didn't quite cotton on to this myself.)
>
> At the same time, where they intersect is at the level of the idea of
> canonical layers. I'd like to see a cached set of tiles for several
> different layers.
>
> Another point of intersection could be that the vector data store can
> emit GeoRSS when things change. Tile generators can subscribe to the
> appropriate feeds and keep their tiles up to date.
>
>         Allan
>
> On Jan 26, 2006, at 09:39, David Bitner wrote:
>
> > Please note, as discussed before, I think that the tiling is a
> > different beast than what the Wiki will be used for.  I'm all  tiling
> > and just signed up to that mailing list, but we should probably keep
> > the vector data processing chatter away from that discussion.  I'm not
> > sure if we want a public data vector processing list or not.
> >
> > In any case, I will try to get the existing data from the geotools
> > site moved to the new Wiki by Saturday.  Early next week I'll start
> > trying to spread the word to some other lists (I'll be hitting PostGIS
> > and MapServer, others please hit whatever you feel is appropriate).
> >
> > Thanks for getting this set up Jody!
> >
> > David
> >
> > On 1/26/06, Allan Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> And, here's a mailing list:
> >>
> >> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/tiling
> >>
> >> Now that GeoRSS (http://www.georss.org) is more or less ready (we
> >> still need to do a few final text tweaks and clean up the web site) a
> >> tiling scheme seems like a great Next Thing.
> >>
> >> It seems that we need to define what the resolution levels are, work
> >> out a tiling scheme so that clients can request tiles either by bbox
> >> or by name (maybe these are the same thing) and so that tiles can be
> >> cached and distributed.
> >>
> >> If we then define a dozen or so canonical layers with specific names,
> >> we can tile each of those layers into the tiling scheme and people
> >> could just assume that those layers will always be there. Things like
> >> "boundaries", "water bodies", "roads", "cities", etc.
> >>
> >> If the tiling scheme uses WMS requests, then the tiles can be
> >> generated from some carefully crafted WMS engines with carefully
> >> maintained data sources. People could cache tiles using Squid,
> >> modified httpd software, or perl, python, or ruby hacks.
> >>
> >> The tile fetches would be against web servers that are essentially
> >> serving static files and thus ought to be blazingly fast.
> >>
> >> The whole thing can then be wrapped up in a nice bundle as a WMS
> >> profile.
> >>
> >> And, drum roll.... GeoRSS can be used to describe the tiles and could
> >> be used to help track who has tiles. (Thanks to Andy Hook for that
> >> inspiration)
> >>
> >>         Allan
> >>
> >> On Jan 26, 2006, at 03:58, Jody Garnett wrote:
> >>
> >>> David Bitner wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Now that the chatter has died down, it looks like we have three
> >>>> choices to host a wiki:
> >>>>
> >>>> udig or codehaus and worldwind
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not personally concerned with udig or worldwind association I
> >>>> think if we put useful stuff out there, people will use it and will
> >>>> hopefully contribute.
> >>>>
> >>> Here is a space - login to create an account (and thus be able to
> >>> edit). If you use it cool, if not
> >>> it is open for others.
> >>>
> >>> - http://udig.refractions.net/confluence/display/DATA/Home
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for putting this information together in a public location -
> >>> something we will all enjoy.
> >>>
> >>> Jody
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