On Feb 6, 2007, at 19:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

I've been following the discussions on JSON etc for GEO.

IMO:

I'm finding that Open Source spatial projects are getting increasing attention from large organisations.

This is largely due to a strong support for OGC standards in key OS projects and an organisation's desire for vendor neutrality.

While I can sympathise with performance concerns, I'd recommend that projects do not move away from support for OGC Standards.

There has been a great deal of thought and effort into getting the standards where they are today. If specific OGC standards are not working or have problems, we as an industry need to work with OGC to make sure that the issues are resolved.

Open Source geo projects were among the first to implement and OGC specs and then those implementations have become widely used, thus helping to bring about further acceptance of OGC specs.

I think it's in fact the case that those specs that have found their way into widely used open source implementations are those specs that are considered to be working or at least workable by the broader community. If you want to know which OGC specs are not working, then to first order look for those that are not implemented in open source.

Many individual OGC members have a pretty good idea of which of their specs are usable and which are not. Furthermore, they also have a pretty good idea of what kinds of specs the broader community needs. The trouble is that OGC is a large organization with many different constituents and a process that is, dare I say it? - rather ponderous. There's no way someone on this list, working for a small, fast-moving, mindshare and buzz-seeking startup can afford to wait for 18 months for OGC to come up with a JSON Geo encoding. Particularly when there's no guarantee that the spec would ever see the light of day.

There have been some rumblings coming from inside OGC recognizing this and recognizing the need to adapt. I think it's a case of the barbarians having to be at the gate before you can persuade anyone to start boiling the oil.

Perhaps rather than try to fit geowanking with what is probably as opposite to OGC as you can get, it might be the fact that guerilla spec development is just the shot in the arm OGC needs to get enough internal momentum going for a change.

        Allan


Bruce

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Bruce Bannerman
IT Solutions Architect - GIS

Department of Primary Industries - Victoria
Australia

Bruce dot Bannerman at dpi dot vic dot gov dot au
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