Agree 100%. My company is working on a location platform that has the end-user in mind, with comprehensive privacy controls (similar to Facebook). Once we crack the iPhone location data, routing it through Brightkite would ensure that only apps that the users select have access to location info, optionally with a level of fuzziness.

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On Sep 14, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Mike Liebhold wrote:

go iphone hackers!

I hope we all can remember that without some robust user protection mechanisms, a rogue script could hijack the users' loc data for malicious purposes.

imho: a top goal for a location utility ought to be empowering users to control, at the lowest level, disclosure of their own locations.

-Mike



Kevin Elliott wrote:
Martin and I have been disassembling some of the iPhone frameworks/ libraries involved in retrieving the Cell ID. We made some progress last night, but I have made considerable more progress today. He and I will keep you guys posted soon.

Kevin

On Sep 14, 2007, at 12:56 PM, Martin May wrote:


From what I can tell, you have to specify your location manually. Kevin Elliot and I have started working towards extracting cell IDs from the iPhone and are investigating some methods that look promising.

Martin

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On Sep 14, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Mike Liebhold wrote:

anyone know how this iPhone 'location based service' works?

http://www.ipling.com/

I'm wondering if they have access to cell tower IDs and locations, using some kind of IP domain loc lookup, or if this is just another 'click on your location on a gmap' app.

-Mike  ( no iPhone for me for an other month)

Martin May wrote:

Ian,

After hacking around on my phone a little, I figured out a way to list all visible networks via an AT command. If you're interested, I can elaborate.

AT+COPS=?
+COPS: (2,"T-Mobile",,"31026"),(1,"Cingular",,"31041"),,(0,1),(2)

Martin

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On Sep 12, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Ian White wrote:

Unlikely question of the day....

Anybody know of a device that indicates which network(s) provide reception in a given area? Call it a 'cellular sniffer' if you like...

My hack to get this done is to carry 4 cellphones bound with duct tape. When I'm done using it, it will be the perfect mobile for a baby's crib!!

But I'd prefer a slightly more, er, elegant hack.

i


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