From an instrumental position, it is the different meanings that make it 
meaningless.   Might as well talk about what you want for gefliffle.*  Once you 
start making policy requests based on a concept, you have to have more 
consistency.  So we now have sustainable growth, sustainable coal, sustainable 
nuclear.
A concept that cannot be defined in 27 years needs to be retired.
Len
PS:  I am the sustainability officer in my agency.
*A made up word some used in some philosophy of science discussion in the 1970s 
meaning endless conceptual debates.  Don’t believe it ever got published.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Beth DeSombre
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:35 PM
To: Ronnie D Lipschutz
Cc: [email protected]; GEP-Ed List
Subject: Re: [gep-ed] seeking definitions of sustainability

"Ronnie D Lipschutz" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> writes:
If you look over the courses linked to our Sustainability
Engineering and Ecological Design curriculum
(http://seed.soe.ucsc.edu/), you may find some useful
material.  I try not to get too bogged down in
definitionalism, since that can go on forever...

Our whole point in starting with definitions is to point out that a) there are 
many different ways to define this concept; b) any definition by necessity 
prioritizes some things and excludes others, and so c) we're not going to use a 
definition for our course, but instead talk about the kinds of things we want 
to mean when we're collectively talking about sustainability,

Beth

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