Peter:


HCFCs are regulated under the Montreal Protocol amendments and have phase-out 
dates.  HFCs are not ozone-depleting substances.  Micronesia, USA, Mexico and 
Canada have proposed amending the Protocol to include them under the argument 
that they likely would not exist if not for the CFC and HCFC phase-outs and 
thus even thought they are GHG, it is still the Protocol's responsibility.  
They also note that since the Protocol works, it would be more effective to 
address them in the ozone regime than in the climate regime.  The EU states and 
other countries support the proposed amendment.  China, India, Saudi Arabia and 
others oppose it, saying that the Montreal Protocol cannot address non-ODS, 
addressing HFCs would take multilateral fund money away from finishing the HCFC 
and methyl bromide phase-outs and addressing ODS banks, and that putting HFCs 
under the ozone regime could upset the climate negotiations.  This stalemate 
has gone on for several years in the ozone negotiations (i.e. - annual 
amendment proposals and debate but no consensus).



Addressing the HFC loophole in climate funding would help reduce objections to 
addressing HFCs in one of the regimes, and proponents of addressing HFCs, 
including those that want to do so under Montreal, have been moving in this 
direction for several years.  This is the discussion referred to in the 
article.  The HFC credits discussed in the article represent a `huge moral 
hazard' and create a large and somewhat perverse economc incentive to oppose 
addressing HFCs.  Those that want to deal with HFCs asap have also proposed an 
agreement or statement of some type under the UNFCCC umbrella giving the go 
ahead to the ozone regime to address but this has also been blocked.



David



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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Peter Haas 
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Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2012 11:31 AM
To: GEP-ED
Subject: [gep-ed] Regime complexes on ozone and climate change

can anybody please explain the details of this issue to me?  I thought that 
HFCs were regulated under the Montreal Protocol amendments?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/31/us-un-climate-idUSBRE87U0RQ20120831
Peter M. Haas
Professor
Department of Political Science
216 Thompson Hall
UMASS - Amherst


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