Ehrenfried! Whee whee whee!
*cough* Sorry.. He's always made me laugh and I haven't heard much of him... :P
Anyway, if beans were in the food she gave to her gerbils I figure it would be
safe, or the company probably wouldn't be in buisness if it killed their gerbils.
I don't know..
Paige
Ehrenfried Ehrenstein wrote:
> Julian and Jackie wrote:
> > Many raw beans are poisonous. Ehrenfried is usually pretty good at these
> > things. Is he still on the list?
> >
> Yes I am. I was a little bit in stress and I have had to change my e-mail
> too, because there isn't a "hoelle-auf-erden" anymore... (and no devil
> too? I hope so! ;-))
>
> It is commonly believed, that _raw_ beans of the genus "Phaseolus" (the
> bean sort you most often can find here in Europe, which is eaten as the
> hole thing with the pod too) have toxins (called phasin) in it, causing
> vomiting, stomach cramps and also blood cell accumulation, but may be, the
> phasin is located much more in the pods(?). Some genera of beans may not
> be very toxic (Vicia seems to be a high risk for some allergic people
> only), but some of the genera, especially Macuna and Canavalia used in
> Asia and South America are raw even more toxic than Phaseolus.
> With soy-bean I'm quite unsure.
>
> Sometimes I think, I have to postulate, wild living gerbils _must_ have a
> cooking chamber underground (haven't they??), so they can cook the beans
> and also the heat is needed to resist in the very cold climate in
> Mongolia... ;o)) It will remain one of the unresolved questions in nature!
>
> Might be, the beans in the food source are dried at a higher temperature
> too...? I don't know. As Protein source, sunflower seeds - if they wouldn't
> be so fat - are high in protein too... perhaps the residues from
> oil-pressing would be very good...? (So an oil-mill is needed?... ;-))
>
> Kristen wrote:
> > this was the only gerbil book I ever ran across with pictures of a siamese in
> > it and also one that named a few of the colors
> >
> The siamese, in the gerbil book Kristen mentioned, is probably one of
> Vera Br�ckmann's. But the first book with a siamese pic on it I came across was
> the very good book from Fred Petrij in Dutch "DE GERBIL als gezelschapsdier",
> 1996.
>
> Ehrenfried
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> gerbil links: http://home.wtal.de/ehr/gerbils/links.htm
