How about a plan of action? Step #1: 1 week of Nominations. Existing committers can nominate new committers by sending a note to the dev mailing list. Step #2: One of the ASF sponsors consolidates the list of nominations and starts a VOTE on the dev mailing list. VOTE is open for 1 week. Existing committers can use +1/+0/-0/-1 to indicate their preference in an email to the dev mailing list. Step #3: ASF sponsor conveys the result of the VOTE to the incubator PMC and asks for permission to add the new committers.
-- dims --- Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Greg Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:22 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: committers (again) > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 03:58:38AM -0000, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >... > > > From: Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: State of the Project > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 16:11:25 -0500 > > >... > > > Another challenge facing us is how to grow the committer > > base. There > > > is some perception of a cathedral clique of insiders, whereas in > > > > Yup. One of the reasons that I suggested adding committers > > ASAP. The more you wait, the more you reinforce this. You've > > got a lot of people banging on the door, more than willing to > > help. Open it, already. And do it on your own terms rather > > than having the PMC do it. > > The door is open, but everyone is milling around in confusion. Let's fix > it. > > > > > > reality, many of the project management issues have arisen > > because the > > > current committers are not used to working together and are > > new to the > > > Apache Way. With the initial startup phase behind us, we will be > > > looking to expand the project rapidly over the next couple > > of months. > > > > There are few true barriers to adding committers. The notion > > of "current committers are not used to working together" is a > > red herring. You're already working with the community at > > large. It has nothing to do with the current set of committers. > > > > I don't think it's a red herring, I think it is a major part of the > confusion. None of the folks new to Apache really know how it is > supposed to work and, as I understand it, are tasked with the > responsibility of deciding. IIRC only one person, ever, at ASF has had > commit revoked, which should make granting it a decision not to be taken > lightly. > > > I would recommend coming up with, say, a list of four people > > and submit that list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for consideration. How > > about by end of week? > > > > Do we do this in public, or private? > > This is not a cathedral question, but an attempt to handle the case > where someone gets proposed, someone -1's the proposal and has to > justify it - how do we avoid embarrassing or humiliating a contributor? > > > If you don't want to do this, then let's hear a discussion > > about why. My previous emails on this subject have gone > > unanswered. :-( > > > > We do want to do it (at least I do) - and we could use some guidance > from the PMC. > > -- > Jeremy > ===== Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
