> -----Original Message----- > From: get_iplayer [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Nic Siddle > Sent: 05 November 2014 20:07 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Hello World... > > The rules as set out (however absurd) are quite clear - you need a TV > license to watch programmes as they are being shown on TV but not if > they are time shifted (e.g. in i-Player or with a tape recorder). That > license also allows you to record said programmes by any means. You do > not need a license for a TV or any other device if you never watch > stuff a/s it is being shown/ on TV. > > There is nothing in the rules (which clearly pre-date catch up > services) about recording when something is not being shown on TV. But, > what is not addressed at all is recording whilst programmes are not > being shown. > Such recording is therefore not in breach of TV licensing conditions > per se. But such a lack of the breach does not necessarily cover > copyright issues. In reality, it is unlikely that the BBC is going to > come down on anyone simply using i-Player to time shift for their own > personal use. > But they would be well within their rights (and duty?) to pursue anyone > using it for commercial purposes or even distribution amongst friends. > > Use of i-Player is conditional on acceptance of their T&Cs. These state > '1.1 "BBC iPlayer" is a BBC Online Service made available by the BBC to > enable you to access, view and/or listen to BBC Content or, if your > device permits, download BBC Content either using the BBC iPlayer > Download Application or directly from bbc.co.uk/iplayer > <http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/>.'. In other words, use of i-Player > demands agreement to use their software and to their terms - which > include the automatic expiry of content. Technically therefore, use of > get i-Player is in breach of their terms. > > Having panicked at the recent loss of get i-player and having been so > relieved at its restoration (thanks DP and others), I for one would be > reluctant to make too much of a public fuss. Essentially, get i-Player > needs to stay sufficiently below the radar to be tolerated rather than > starting a big public hoo-hah which might lead to a change in TV > licence conditions. > > Nic
I believe that a few years ago, the legality of the use of get_iplayer was discussed at great length and a carefully considered opinion then was that the use of get_iplayer did not breach the BBC's T&Cs. Please look back through past posts as it was a serious, well considered discussion. Of course the T&Cs may have changed since. I am just a simple user of get_iplayer (Windows/PVR) and I ask the question - does it actually use the BBC's iPlayer? I thought that it just used the BBC's various data streams and sources. If this is the case, then the BBC iPLayer T&Cs are not really relevant. I hope this forum doesn't descend into a platform for people just to have a rant against the BBC. Get_iplayer is a truly excellent resource and I hope this forum can remain a place for people to discuss the technical issues. Let's hope get_iplayer rules OK and thank dinkypumpkin and some others for their efforts. Also let's not forget Phil Lewis who started the whole thing off many years ago. Regards Simon Morgan _______________________________________________ get_iplayer mailing list [email protected] http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
