> In contrast, Google have a very strict policy, and expect the rest of the > Internet to spend a lot of time and money chasing their latest capricious > changes. This is a full-time job, and unsurprisingly, many people running mail > services on the side have better things to do than try and support users of an > actively hostile mail service. If it works, fine; if it doesn't, tough.
Assuming that the issue is being caused by the implementation of DMARC (which an increasing number of email providers are now implementing) then actually GMAIL is late to the party, other email hosts have been enforcing it for some time. It is an imperfect attempt at a solution to a difficult problem (i.e. spam) and it clearly does help reduce the problem though at the cost (as the "standard" in fairness acknowledges) that some mailing lists and email forwarders will stop working. Happily the fix is a simple tick box in the settings of Mailman (it is something I have had to do on the lists I run) so no "time and money chasing their latest capricious changes". Details here https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC However, as I understand it, the changes then mean that technically the emails being sent by Mailman are not being processed by the list software in line with the email standards (in due course I expect the standards will need in some way to change to accommodate this, but given how long these things take it is probably still years away). I took the view that a technical breach that allowed the email list to continue to work was a compromise I had to make, especially given that the solution was the one provided and recommended by the software developers. David (who owns this list) has to make his own decision. Given that he automatically rejects any HTML emails outright (for which I admire his principles but can't help feeling it is a lost cause, especially when the default email client on many phone handsets now will only send emails as HTML, hence why it had to wait until I got onto a proper PC to send this) I am pretty certain what his view will be! > I'm sure the list admin(s) will be delighted to receive your remittance to > cover the cost of the reconfiguration, testing, extra server load, and ongoing > maintenance required to improve (but not guarantee!) deliverability to > GMail. Reconfiguration = one tick box, testing = already tested on many lists and an established built in feature of the software so very little, extra server load = none, ongoing maintenance = no different. > Until then, they'll run the list however they please. I absolutely agree, David's list, David's rules. You can ask him to change the settings, but don't complain if/when he says no. We have to be grateful for what we have! Cheers George _______________________________________________ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
