Hi Andreas,

>> I have been trying to use kgicon from the 2000/06/21 >>snapshot to use the 
>> text console at 800x600 with my old Thinkpad (only VESA >>1.2 compliant); 
>> is this possible (i.e., should I keep trying? :-)? 
>
>This depends on the chipset of the graphics subsystem.

(..)

>Hmm - I don't think this card is supported - wait ... - no, I >don't see Trident's 
>anywhere


Thank you for your reply; so I guess I am out of luck, right? I suppose there isn't 
much demand for a driver supporting an
old Trident chip... :-) 

I am just a hobbyist C programmer (with *very* poor knowledge of all kinds of "low 
level" stuff); is there any easy way out
for me?

>
>> With the standard fbcon from the linux 2.2.x kernel I can use the console 
>> at that resolution, but 
>> 1) it requires me to run a DOS TSR at boot time to "upgrade" my video 
>> card to VESA 3.0 compliance and then boot with loadlin (passing it the 
>> parameter "vga=771");
>
>I.e. you are running VESAfb, then. 

Yes; is there any other framebuffer I may use available on the Intel archictecture? 
Sorry if I commited a mistake in calling
it "fbcon"; in "real life" I just study Economics... :-)

>> 2) it is *really* slow when it comes to scrolling...
>
>You might want to try enabling the "ypan" and/or "ywrap" options, using a 
>syntax like "video=vesa:ypan,opt2,...".

I will check the docs for that, thanks!


>> which is only VESA 1.2 compliant
>
>VESA compliance is not useful to kgi-style drivers, which rely on being able
>to control the hardware completely.

Humm..., that makes it even more interesting, since any requirement for VESA 
compliance (at least VESA 3/2.0 compliance)
would force me to keep that old 60MB MS-DOS partition around (to run that scitech 
software product I mentioned before booting
the kernel).

I guess that's why GGI needs to know about the specific chips, right? If it used the 
VESA interface it really wouldn't be
necessary for it to "know" about each chip; but then it would also have all the 
incovenient aspects of the VESA framebuffer
which are the reason why I want to try out GGI, isn't that it? :-)

Best regards and thanks for any further tips,

Manuel

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