Summary of the irc session of Monday Dec 11, 2000
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This summary is available from the GGI webpage at
http://www.ggi-project.org/irc/

The entire log for the discussion is available from
http://vengeance.et.tudelft.nl/~smoke/log/
as are logs for each and every day of #demoscene/opn


Introduction
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The meeting was held in #demoscene on the open projects irc network,
see http://openprojects.nu/ for a list of servers.

Four topics were discussed:

1 the new stable release
2 the future plans
3 progress on kgi
4 project management

What follows is a summary of what was said regarding these topics.
Please read the IRC log to find out more.  Please report errors I made
while summarizing as bugs.

I will refer to people with their names as they appear in the log.  A
short list of realnames to help you out decrypting the logs:

  macarena - Andreas Beck
  seeger_s - Steffen Seeger
  stefan - Stefan Seefeld
  adamel - Marcus Sundberg
  soyt - Eric (he managed to hide his realname very well!)
  smoke - yours truly


1 the new stable release
------------------------

The API will not change before the first stable release of LibGGI.
The most important targets (X, Xlib, DGA, memory, fbdev, glide,
svgalib) only need some more testing.  Regarding bug testing, see the
last topic "4 project management".

There are a few features that people would like to see added.  Most
important are messaging of changes to a SHM visual and event
compression.

Consensus has been reached to release ``beta3'' next weekend (16,17
Dec 2000).  The release will feature binaries so that a broad audience
can test it.  A full release will appear before the end of the year!


2 the future plans
------------------

Macarena explained that portability is of major concern.  It is
important to cover most unices using X11, but also a Windows port
would be advantageous, as to make porting easier.

The first plan is to get a release out.  After that some volunteers
are required to sort out maintenance.

LibGGI2d and 3d need serious commitment, and it would be nice if more
extensions would pop up, such as a sprite library.

As LibGGI seems to fulfill Macarena's goals, he is losing interest a
bit.  Others obviously want more, so we will have to work on those
projects ourselves.  Especially regarding ports to other OS'es --
everyone is free to undertake such projects.


3 progress on kgi
-----------------

Steffen told us he is lacking time, which is keeping KGI back.  The
main goals are to get an accelerated X server working and porting KGI
to *BSD and The Hurd.  A framebuffer-only version of X11 is semi
functional.  Getting XAA working proves hard, but it may be the best
way to get decent acceleration.

KGI is still healthy but progress is slow.


4 project management
--------------------

It seems important to set up a good bug tracking system.  Adamel set
up a sourceforge site for this.

As for who's who:

Macarena and Adamel will stay in charge of LibGGI and LibGII, all the
other projects will (have to) be maintained by others.

Soyt will take care of the website.

Yours truly will maintain the IRC channel, please send newbies,
developers and users there, so I can help them.


--
Tijs van Bakel, a.k.a. Smoke/ECFh
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
webpage: http://vengeance.et.tudelft.nl/ecfh/

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