Hi there, On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 10:58:01PM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I had to laugh about this one for a little bit: > > > we must think about the Unix way! Being inspired by MacOS, BeOS, NextStep > > and even WinXX but finding a truly Unix solution. > You mean, we must create hundreds of inconsistent versions of the same > thing, make it outrageously difficult for users to learn, and keep making > new incompatible revisions? Isn't that truly the Unix way? :0 Unfortunately I have to agree here. Though I did not like timecop's "strong" attitude, he's got some very important points. There is _no_ Unix way. Look at Netscape's shortcuts, e.g. "Close Window". - on Sun: ALT-W - on Irix: CTRL-W (consistent with other Irix applications) - on Linux: ALT-W - on Windows: CTRL-W What is the Unix way? I think it is time for something like CDE with a very large, very bold "Common" in it! It doesn't matter whether the proposed standard will look more like Win* or Mac*; it just needs to be consistent. I also think that one should be able to navigate menus by hitting shortcuts. Okay, it's "the Windows way" but AFAIK the Mac does it too. The <Image>-Menu is pretty difficult to use for me since my mouse is a bit wacky. And as timecop stated, remembering dozens of (private) shortcuts is far more difficult than remembering ALT-F-B-G or whatever Bye, Tino. -- * LINUX - Where do you want to be tomorrow? * http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linxu/tag/ 3rd Chemnitzer Linux-Tag from 10th to 11th March 2001 at Chemnitz University of Technology!