Frankly, what GIMP needs to make it more “marketable” is better documentation. 
IF I were going to ask the developers to spend more time on anything, that 
would be it. When I first encountered GIMP, I thought it was just like PS … 
Umm, nope. I think that needs to be addressed in some way. (No, I’m not 
volunteering. I don’t know GIMP well enough, yet.

I realize those who write code hate writing documentation, and I identify and 
sympathize with that. Further, other concerns may take priority. Still, I think 
GIMP is mature enough that it needs more complete, readily available 
documentation. I certainly think it is more important that a flashy appearance.

Other comments in-line.

Ross


> On Oct 22, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Ross Martinek wrote:
> 
>> I disagree completely. I am a “normal” user, and I do not think GIMP
>> is dead. Quite the contrary. Adobe Photoshop is dead to the normal,
>> or average, user. The only people using PS are either corporately
>> supported or students—no one else can afford it.
> 
> "No one else" as in "lots and lots of freelancers who make their
> living from illustration, design, digital photography etc.”?

I pulled a marketing ploy—I overstated. ;o) If you can justify the cost as a 
business expense, and it pays for itself. PS is a great program, and as long as 
I used it, I considered the documentation the best of any software, not just 
graphics.

I think what I should have said is that Adobe is marketing solely to those who 
use the program daily, or at least frequently and profitably enough to justify 
a faintly outrageous subscription cost. If you are not established, the cost 
can be a burden.

For example, my use of graphics software is not daily any more, though it used 
to be. I switched to GIMP when that was still the case. Now I may use a program 
intensively for two months, then hardly at all for several months. It is a 
vital accessory to what I am doing, but it is not the primary tool. Admittedly 
a small sampling, but I know several successful creative artists with similar 
use patterns.

> 
>> Where are the “have nots” going? To GIMP.
> 
> There are multiple options. GIMP is just one of them.
> 
> Affinity Photo is quickly gaining a dedicated user base for photo
> manipulation. Black Ink, Krita and others are becoming popular options
> for digital painting. And the list goes on.

Perhaps I should investigate these … Nah, I’ll stick with GIMP. =^D
> 
>> I know several successful artists who have abandoned PS for GIMP,
>> and I’m aware of many more. I did two lectures on a particular aspect
>> of fantasy art last March. Of those attending, two used PS because
>> their employers paid for it. Of the rest, about five used GIMP. Everyone
>> else wanted to know where to get it, and one PS user said he was going
>> to recommend it to his employer.
> 
> Glad to hear that. Still a very small sampling.

Unfortunately true, but I can only speak of my own experience, likely less than 
yours.
> 
>> I get the distinct impression from what you say and how you say it that
>> you work in marketing.
> 
> Well, I'm not Maurizio, but I do work in marketing, and my role with
> GIMP could be qualified as PR. So I'm guessing that's
> double-propaganda in your book.

Actually, no. I merely point out that associating marketing with propaganda is 
NOT a good thing. Propaganda, by definition, is untrue. Marketing does not have 
to be. I wish more people in marketing would realize that.

And PR is not necessarily propaganda, especially since “public relations” 
strongly implies two-way communication. Communication is always a good thing.

> 
>> You can’t “tell the whole world,” but you can tell everyone you know, even
>> if they don’t use such software. Someone they know might lament the state
>> (EXPENSE) of Adobe and PS, at which point your non-artistic acquaintance
>> says “Have you tried GIMP? Its free and <insert your name here> loves it!”
>> Been there, done that. Have yet to hear anyone say, “Nah, I’ll stick with
>> Photoshop.”
> 
> Your experience, if it's true, is different from lots and lots (and
> lots) of cases I personally witnessed.

Yes, it’s true. And really? I do not understand people who prefer to spend 
money when they can get a near equivalent for free (not equating GIMP and PS). 
GIMP is neither buggy nor unstable. While there may be some PS features not 
available (yet?) in GIMP, the only advantage of PS I see is its documentation.

Ross
> 
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