Hi Alex,

thanks for the explainations. I maybe misunderstood the way rebase
works, so thank you for clarifying.

I did have a look into the git documentation already (brilliant!),
but I reached a point where it doesn't cover my particular case,
so I decided to ask on the mailing list / group where people with
experience could do that.

There have been a lot of hints to diffenrent documentation, so I'll
work my way through it. While I still have no idea on how exactly
to use git with our project, I now better understand how git works
and what is technically possible.

Cheers
Michael


On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 05:43:09 -0700 (PDT)
Alex Lewis <alex.lewis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>   No problem. Yes rebase *or merge*. I'll add an explanation here for both, 
> apologies if you already know the difference.
> 
> Rebase: Replay one branch on top of another.
> Merge: Take the commits from each branch and combine them to form a new 
> commit. 
> 
> E.g.
> Before...
>             m
> o---o---o---o
>  \--*---*
>         b
> 
> Rebase:
>             m
> o---o---o---o
>              \---*---*
>                    b
> Or will often be displayed in tools as
>             m       b
> o---o---o---o---*---*
> 
> If you wanted the changes on the branch to be included in the history of 
> master you will still need to merge (which would be a fast-forward merge).
> 
> Merge :
>                 m
> o---o---o---o---#
>  \--*---*------/
>         b
> 
> So at "#" master will now include the changes in the branch *combined* with 
> the code on master.
> 
> The Git Documentation <http://git-scm.com/documentation> is very good at 
> explaining this and the rest of Git. Also you may want to try this 
> interactive guide/demo <http://pcottle.github.io/learnGitBranching> as a 
> way to learn the git commands and see their effect visually (and pretty :) 
> I thoroughly recommend looking at both, maybe the Git docs first followed 
> by the interactive guide.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers,
> Alex
> 
> On Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:23:56 UTC+1, Michael Weise wrote:
> >
> > Hi Alex,
> >
> > thanks for your quick and helpful answer.
> >
> > I was just going to ask some question on how exactly to work with "branch" 
> > and "diff" ...
> > ... and then David already gave the answer and added the missing 
> > puzzle-piece: "rebase" :-)
> >
> > Thanks a lot guys, this was exactly the kind of information I was looking 
> > for!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, 25. September 2013 12:16:33 UTC+2 schrieb Alex Lewis:
> >>
> >> The first thing I'd like to say is nice one for considering VCS from day 
> >> one, even many "real programmers" have not considered it up front. As for 
> >> your choice of Git, I don't think you'll regret it :)
> >>
> >> In short I think the answer is sadly a bit of a) and b) and that's the 
> >> art of writing good software. I don't know C well enough to know how easy 
> >> or achievable this is but if you can aim for something where you can 
> >> compartmentalise (modularise) functionality be it customer specific or 
> >> agnostic. I found this 
> >> link<http://deans-avr-tutorials.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ManagingLargeProjects/Output/ManagingLargeProjects.pdf>
> >>  which 
> >> *might* be useful on how to do that. All of this would be on your 
> >> "master" branch regardless of whether it was common or customer specific. 
> >> Hopefully you can then just have various build scripts that will combine 
> >> those modules into customer specific builds. Your branches in this case 
> >> would be used to apply bug fixes, patches, etc. to a specific release of 
> >> the software. E.g. You couldn't give the customer the latest build of the 
> >> software (Version 2.1.2) including the fix you've needed to apply as it 
> >> includes new features, changes to API's, etc. It needs to be version 1.4.1 
> >> + bug fix (I.e. soon to be 1.4.2, or 1.4.1_1 depending on how you want to 
> >> number your releases). In this case you would branch from the 1.4.1 
> >> release, apply your fix and release from that branch. That branch would 
> >> live around for as long as a customer is using that version and any 
> >> subsequent bug fixes, enhancements, etc. would be done on that branch. If 
> >> those changes apply to the latest version of the code as well you could 
> >> merge those changes into master.
> >>
> >> There are *many* ways this can be achieved, all with pros and cons. Like 
> >> I say I don't know enough about C to suggest whether #ifdefs are the 
> >> "right" way to modularise the code and I'm sure people will respond with 
> >> other suggestions.
> >>
> >> One thing I will say is try to always consider whether you're trying to 
> >> use Git for versioning or trying to compensate for the design of the code 
> >> or the way in which it is built. So having a branch per customer is 
> >> probably airing towards trying to compensate for the structure of the 
> >> code, 
> >> not about a good versioning process. That probably sounds very vague and 
> >> useless, I'm just finding it very difficult to put it into succinct 
> >> sentences :)
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >> Alex 
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, 25 September 2013 10:36:39 UTC+1, Michael Weise wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello folks,
> >>>
> >>> I've just started to work on a software project with lots of "dirty" 
> >>> code with very little to no management, no bug tracking, no 
> >>> documenatition 
> >>> at all. As one of many actions, I decided it would be a good idea to use 
> >>> a 
> >>> version control system and git looks like a suitable choice.
> >>>
> >>> Some background info about myself: I'm an electrical engineer, have done 
> >>> some programming here and there, but this is my first big "real" software 
> >>> project. I do know stuff about hardware, have compiled plenty of programs 
> >>> from source, BUT I'm not familiar with concepts that "real programmers" 
> >>> ;-) 
> >>> know about, so I'll be thankful for some hints. I've never used a version 
> >>> control system before (except for downloading, e.g. "git clone ...").
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> One problem I'm facing is that we have different customers who get 
> >>> different versions of our program (programming language is C). Currently 
> >>> these versions are implemented with lots of #ifdefs that make the code 
> >>> hard 
> >>> to read.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if I can solve part of the problem with version control:
> >>>
> >>> Let's say I have source code for customer A that works fine. Now 
> >>> customer B wants the same program, but with subtle changes in different 
> >>> places of the code.
> >>>
> >>> How would I handle that?
> >>>
> >>> a) One approach is to create a second branch for customer B and apply 
> >>> the changes. But when I have to make changes that apply to both (or lets 
> >>> say n=12) branches, how would I do that?
> >>> This would lead to a situation, where I have (at least) 12 branches for 
> >>> 12 customers, which might diverge more and more over time (not generally 
> >>> a 
> >>> problem, but maybe incompatible to the idea behind version control?).
> >>>
> >>> b) Another approach is to keep one codebase with all the #ifdefs and use 
> >>> version control "in the classical way".
> >>>
> >>> What do you recommend? Is there another approach worth considering?
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Michael
> >>>
> >>
> 
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