On 02/26/2014 11:23 AM, Jeff King wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 06:15:28PM +0100, Michael Haggerty wrote: >> Requiring students to submit a reasonable patch and follow up on review >> comments seems like it would be a good way to filter out non-serious >> students. (I hesitate to require that the patch be accepted because it >> can take quite a while for a patch to make it to master, despite of the >> student's efforts.) > > Yeah, I think the early stages of "accepted" are somewhat vague. > Probably "patch is in next" is a reasonable definition, but I do not > think we even need to bind ourselves so strictly. Humans read, evaluate, > and rank the proposals, so we can use our judgement about whether a > patch looks promising.
Agreed. > [...] >> If we wanted to impose such a hurdle, then we would definitely have to >> make up a list of microprojects so that the students don't have to start >> from nothing. [...] >> If the reaction is positive to this idea then I volunteer to spend >> several hours tomorrow looking for microprojects, and I suggest other >> core developers do so as well. They should presumably be submitted as >> patches to the ideas repository . > > Yes, though I think it makes sense to put them on a separate page. We > should probably write up some notes for students, too: how to get in > touch with us, what do we expect of them in the pre-proposal period, > what would we expect in terms of communication and day-to-day workflow > during the summer, etc. Since time is short, I already started on this. I wrote a first draft of an introduction for the students. I also started looking for microprojects. I started going through our source files alphabetically, and have already found six suggestions by "bundle.c", so I don't think there will be a problem finding enough tiny things to do. See my branch on GitHub  or read the appended text below. I've been looking for *really* tiny projects. Feedback is welcome about whether they are too trivial to be meaningful in distinguishing promising students from no-hopers. My feeling is that there is so much process involved in submitting a patch that it will take even a well-prepared student quite a while to make a change, no matter how trivial. Also, how many suggested microprojects do you think we need (i.e., when can I stop :-) )? Michael  https://github.com/mhagger/git.github.io/tree/microprojects --- layout: default title: SoC 2014 Applicant Microprojects --- ## Introduction It is strongly recommended that students who want to apply to the Git project for the Summer of Code 2014 should submit a small code-related patch to the Git project as part of their application. Think of these microprojects as the "Hello, world" of getting involved with the Git project; the coding aspect of the change can be almost trivial, but to make the change the student has to become familiar with many of the practical aspects of working on the Git project: * Downloading the source code: clone the repository using the [Git via Git](http://git-scm.com/downloads) instructions and read the `README` file. * Build the source code: this is described in the file `INSTALL`. * Glance over our coding guidelines in the file `Documentation/CodingGuidelines`. We take things like proper code formatting very seriously. * Read about the process for submitting patches to Git: this is described in `Documentation/SubmittingPatches`. * Making the actual change. * Run the test suite: this is described in the file `t/README`. (If you have added new functionality, you should also add tests, but most microprojects will not add new functionality.) * Commit your change. Surprise: we use Git for that, so you will need to gain at least [a basic familiarity](http://git-scm.com/documentation) with using Git. Make sure to write a good commit message that explains the reason for the change and any ramifications. Remember to add a Signed-off-by line (see the coding guidelines for more information). * Submit your change to the Git mailing list. For this step you probably want to use the commands `git format-patch` and `git send-email`. * Expect feedback, criticism, suggestions, etc. from the mailing list. *Respond to it!* and follow up with improved versions of your change. Even for a trivial patch you shouldn't be surprised if it takes two or more iterations before your patch is accepted. *This is the best part of the Git community; it is your chance to get personalized instruction from very experienced peers!* The coding part of the microproject should be very small (say, 10-30 minutes). We don't require that your patch be accepted into master by the time of your formal application; we mostly want to see that you have a basic level of competence and especially the ability to interact with the other Git developers. When you submit your patch, please mention that you plan to apply for the GSoC. This will ensure that we take special care not to overlook your application among the large pile of others. ## Ideas for microprojects The following are just ideas. Any small code-related change would be suitable. Just remember to keep the change small! It is much better to finish a small but complete patch than to try something too ambitious and not get it done. 1. Rewrite `git-compat-util.h:skip_prefix()` as a loop, so that it doesn't have to scan through the `prefix` string twice. 2. Change `branch.c:install_branch_config()` to use `skip_prefix()`. 3. In `branch.c:setup_tracking()`, figure out where the magic number `1024 - 7 - 7 - 1` comes from. (Looking through the commit history might help.) If the check involving the number is still necessary, document where the number comes from. If the check is no longer necessary, explain why and delete the check. 4. Rewrite `bulk-checkin.c:finish_bulk_checkin()` to use a `strbuf` for handling `packname`, and explain why this is useful. Also check if the first argument of `pack-write.c:finish_tmp_packfile()` can be made const. 5. Change `bundle.c:add_to_ref_list()` to use `hashcpy()`. See if you can find other places where `hashcpy()` should be used instead of `memcpy()`. 6. Change `bundle.c:add_to_ref_list()` to use `ALLOC_GROW()`. -- Michael Haggerty mhag...@alum.mit.edu http://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html