gemmellr commented on code in PR #5547:
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/5547#discussion_r1983756559


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artemis-core-client/src/test/java/org/apache/activemq/artemis/core/remoting/impl/netty/PemProviderTest.java:
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+package org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.remoting.impl.netty;
+
+import java.util.Arrays;
+
+import de.dentrassi.crypto.pem.PemKeyStoreProvider;
+import org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.remoting.impl.ssl.SSLSupport;
+import org.junit.jupiter.api.Assumptions;
+import org.junit.jupiter.api.MethodOrderer.OrderAnnotation;
+import org.junit.jupiter.api.Order;
+import org.junit.jupiter.api.Test;
+import org.junit.jupiter.api.TestMethodOrder;
+
+import static org.junit.jupiter.api.Assertions.assertEquals;
+import static org.junit.jupiter.api.Assertions.assertNotNull;
+import static org.junit.jupiter.api.Assertions.assertNull;
+
+/**
+ * Order is important here because we don't want to load the PEM provider 
class before we test that it isn't loaded.
+ */
+@TestMethodOrder(OrderAnnotation.class)
+public class PemProviderTest {
+
+   static final String PEM_PROVIDER_PACKAGE = "de.dentrassi.crypto.pem";
+
+   @Test
+   @Order(1)
+   public void testPemProviderNotLoaded() {
+      // ensure the PEM provider wasn't already loaded by some other test
+      
Assumptions.assumeFalse(Arrays.stream(ClassLoader.getSystemClassLoader().getDefinedPackages()).anyMatch(pkg
 -> PEM_PROVIDER_PACKAGE.equals(pkg.getName())));

Review Comment:
   Would be better to make it an _assertion_ and let it fail when it needs to, 
to serve as notice the two tests are clashing and need to be ordered or 
isolated from each other to fix the problem.
   
   With an assumption, if some other new test is created and runs first, then 
this test will just start skipping and the 'dont load it to let it be removed 
if not used' effect the test verifies could be broken without noticing, unless 
someone spots the extra skip beginning to occur. Might as well not have a test 
at that point.
   
   Its a requirement for the test to exist that it be run before the first 
other test in the module to use it, but its not a reason to optionally run the 
test or not. We always want to run it, but should check the requirement was 
satisfied at the start, the same way the test checks it at the end currently.



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