paleolimbot commented on PR #34825:
URL: https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/34825#issuecomment-1503313833

   I can also attest to having to `as.data.frame(as.data.frame(arrow_stuff))` 
and having it be really annoying. This usually comes up in tests where 
`expect_identical()` complains or in benchmarks where `bench::mark()` complains 
about non-equality. If it was okay for `as.data.frame()` to return a tibble, 
then `as.data.frame()` on a tibble would return a tibble (it does not).
   
   I also do not see the point of lossless roundtrip to/from a file by default. 
(The option should certainly exist to the extent we have the capacity to 
support it).
   
   We are as a package in a place where we need to move towards simplicity to 
reflect the fact that we have very, very, very few contributors. I do not think 
that having the end result of this PR be "it was too hard so we didn't fix it" 
is a sustainable path.


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