Thanks for this clarification. Will this change effect the English version of Wikipedia as well as Wikimedia Commons?
Jos 2017-03-01 20:03 GMT+01:00 Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder < [email protected]>: > Jos, where the button currently says "Save page", it will later say > "Publish page". Where it currently says "Save changes", it will later say > "Publish changes". (Even if you are blanking the page, when you click that > button, you are making your version "available to the public", which is > what "publish" means.) > > Gnangarra, in the languages that concern you, how do you currently handle > descriptions of copyright and free licenses? For example, how would you > translate "Works published in the U.S. before 1923 are in the public > domain" or the statement in the Terms of Use that says that part of the > mission is to "empower and engage people around the world to collect and > develop educational content and either publish it under a free license or > dedicate it to the public domain" ? The translators should be using the > same concept for this button. > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:53 AM Martin Poulter <[email protected]. > ac.uk> wrote: > >> Personally, I welcome this change. Some trainees just do not pick up that >> they are changing the live version of the site, even after lengthy >> explanations and demonstrations: it just goes against their experience of >> how the web works. Some very, very popular sites have this Save/ Publish >> distinction. I see that there can be some confusion about "Publish" in >> draft space, but I think people need to be reminded that creating or >> altering a draft is making something visible to the public, unlike other >> platforms in which you can create a "draft". >> >> Thanks for the explanation, Sherry. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 21:50:52 +0000 >> From: "Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder" <[email protected]> >> To: Wikimedia Education <[email protected]>, >> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [GLAM] Changes to the 'Save' button >> Message-ID: >> <CABaZQeg-iS2B__TYKimdwh5QefAVr5yNGVg9Qms- >> [email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> *Nutshell: The big, blue button will soon say "Publish page" instead of >> "Save page", because when you click it, the contents get published on the >> internet.* >> >> >> I apologize for cross-posting this to the GLAM and Education lists: >> >> A long-requested change to the "Save" button may finally happen towards >> the end of March. This is a button that anyone leading a workshop about >> editing is going to talk about, so I wanted to make sure that you didn't >> get surprised by this change. >> >> Last year, the WMF looked into an old request to clarify the language on >> the "Save" button, which confuses some new contributors. The main problem >> is that it is unclear whether "Save" means "save a private copy" (as it >> does on most websites these days) or "irrevocably post this to the >> internet". This confusion apparently explains a few unwanted behaviors, >> such as editors who save the page ("just to be safe") before previewing >> their changes. >> >> There are some other reasons behind to do this: It creates some >> inconsistency in the interface, as some things (e.g., Special:Preferences) >> get saved but kept private, while other things (e.g., normal wiki pages) >> get saved and immediately published. It is also difficult to translate the >> label into some languages, as the word has multiple possible translations >> in some languages. >> >> The plan, therefore, is to change "Save" to "Publish". Instead of the >> big blue[1] button saying "Save page" (for a new page) or "Save changes" >> (when you edit an existing page), the button will instead say "Publish >> page" or "Publish changes". >> >> The upside to this small change is that new contributors will understand >> that all of their edits go to the public immediately.[2] The downside is >> that all of the documentation and help pages is going to be out of date. >> >> This plan was announced on the wikis last August, and is tentatively >> scheduled for sometime in March. I hope that this extra note will keep you >> from getting surprised in front of a group and give you enough time to >> update any handouts that you might be using in the future. >> >> Relevant links: >> >> - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131132 – main task (best place to >> figure out if this gets postponed again) >> - Special:Translations&message=Publishpage >> <https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special: >> Translations&namespace=8&message=Publishpage> >> (translation >> status) >> - Special:Translations&message=Publishchanges >> <https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special: >> Translations&namespace=8&message=Publishchanges> >> (translation >> status) >> >> >> >> [1] The color of this button in all of the older wikitext editors will be >> changing this week. It's going to be big and blue. >> >> [2] This is true even when the wiki is using FlaggedRevisions or >> PendingChanges, because the un-accepted changes can be seen by the general >> public from the history page or from &oldid URLs, regardless of whether the >> revision has been accepted. >> >> -- >> Sherry Snyder (WhatamIdoing) >> Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/glam/attachments/ >> 20170228/391868fb/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GLAM mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam >> > -- > Sherry Snyder (WhatamIdoing) > Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > GLAM mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam > >
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