This change will affect all the wikis except Wikinews (when the deployment is complete), in all languages.
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:36 PM Jos Damen <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for this clarification. Will this change effect the English version > of Wikipedia as well as Wikimedia Commons? > > Jos > > 2017-03-01 20:03 GMT+01:00 Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder < > [email protected]>: > > Jos, where the button currently says "Save page", it will later say > "Publish page". Where it currently says "Save changes", it will later say > "Publish changes". (Even if you are blanking the page, when you click that > button, you are making your version "available to the public", which is > what "publish" means.) > > Gnangarra, in the languages that concern you, how do you currently handle > descriptions of copyright and free licenses? For example, how would you > translate "Works published in the U.S. before 1923 are in the public > domain" or the statement in the Terms of Use that says that part of the > mission is to "empower and engage people around the world to collect and > develop educational content and either publish it under a free license or > dedicate it to the public domain" ? The translators should be using the > same concept for this button. > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:53 AM Martin Poulter < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Personally, I welcome this change. Some trainees just do not pick up that > they are changing the live version of the site, even after lengthy > explanations and demonstrations: it just goes against their experience of > how the web works. Some very, very popular sites have this Save/ Publish > distinction. I see that there can be some confusion about "Publish" in > draft space, but I think people need to be reminded that creating or > altering a draft is making something visible to the public, unlike other > platforms in which you can create a "draft". > > Thanks for the explanation, Sherry. > > -----Original Message----- > > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 21:50:52 +0000 > From: "Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder" <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Education <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [GLAM] Changes to the 'Save' button > Message-ID: > < > cabazqeg-is2b__tykimdwh5qefavr5yngvg9qms-sd1cvkj...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > *Nutshell: The big, blue button will soon say "Publish page" instead of > "Save page", because when you click it, the contents get published on the > internet.* > > > I apologize for cross-posting this to the GLAM and Education lists: > > A long-requested change to the "Save" button may finally happen towards > the end of March. This is a button that anyone leading a workshop about > editing is going to talk about, so I wanted to make sure that you didn't > get surprised by this change. > > Last year, the WMF looked into an old request to clarify the language on > the "Save" button, which confuses some new contributors. The main problem > is that it is unclear whether "Save" means "save a private copy" (as it > does on most websites these days) or "irrevocably post this to the > internet". This confusion apparently explains a few unwanted behaviors, > such as editors who save the page ("just to be safe") before previewing > their changes. > > There are some other reasons behind to do this: It creates some > inconsistency in the interface, as some things (e.g., Special:Preferences) > get saved but kept private, while other things (e.g., normal wiki pages) > get saved and immediately published. It is also difficult to translate the > label into some languages, as the word has multiple possible translations > in some languages. > > The plan, therefore, is to change "Save" to "Publish". Instead of the big > blue[1] button saying "Save page" (for a new page) or "Save changes" (when > you edit an existing page), the button will instead say "Publish page" or > "Publish changes". > > The upside to this small change is that new contributors will understand > that all of their edits go to the public immediately.[2] The downside is > that all of the documentation and help pages is going to be out of date. > > This plan was announced on the wikis last August, and is tentatively > scheduled for sometime in March. I hope that this extra note will keep you > from getting surprised in front of a group and give you enough time to > update any handouts that you might be using in the future. > > Relevant links: > > - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131132 – main task (best place to > figure out if this gets postponed again) > - Special:Translations&message=Publishpage > < > https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translations&namespace=8&message=Publishpage > > > (translation > status) > - Special:Translations&message=Publishchanges > < > https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translations&namespace=8&message=Publishchanges > > > (translation > status) > > > > [1] The color of this button in all of the older wikitext editors will be > changing this week. It's going to be big and blue. > > [2] This is true even when the wiki is using FlaggedRevisions or > PendingChanges, because the un-accepted changes can be seen by the general > public from the history page or from &oldid URLs, regardless of whether the > revision has been accepted. > > -- > Sherry Snyder (WhatamIdoing) > Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/glam/attachments/20170228/391868fb/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > GLAM mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam > > -- > Sherry Snyder (WhatamIdoing) > Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > GLAM mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam > > > _______________________________________________ > GLAM mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam > -- Sherry Snyder (WhatamIdoing) Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
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